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The Golden Throne => Community News and Announcements => Topic started by: Stormgrad on April 05, 2011, 01:50:57 PM

Title: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on April 05, 2011, 01:50:57 PM
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=16100001a

Clearly an April fools joke but i like that they spent time doing this shows the company have a fun side
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Morcus on April 06, 2011, 12:38:28 AM
I love it.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on April 06, 2011, 10:13:48 AM
Apparently its already been posted on warseer and i was mega late noticing it but i thought it was a nice touch of humour compared to the the normal gw doom and gloom we have on here
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Heroka Vendile on April 06, 2011, 04:18:36 PM
last years was a multi-chambered spray gun that in a single spray turned a model from bare plastic to 'Eavy Metal quality paintjob.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on April 06, 2011, 04:28:25 PM
i dont remember seeing that but i like this its nice to see something amusing from gw rather than all the scary stopping production and cutting down the sg range rumors we have heard recently on the forum
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Ancelyn on April 06, 2011, 07:56:33 PM
Perhaps if they spent less time being "funny" and more time on ]I[nquisitor?
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on April 07, 2011, 12:17:41 PM
now ancelyn them spending anytime on inquisitor is about as far fetched as me travelling to the moon, Inquisitor is a bust as far as GW are concerned it has a few die hard fans that ocassionaly attract one or 2 more people a year, there happy for people to play it and there happy to cast models from the molds that they currently have but once there ruined they wont invest money in new molds and they sure as hell wont invest money in creating any new miniatures. No GW has essentially said that if people want to play inquisitor thats fine but they will do so with next to no support from the company that created it.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Kaled on April 07, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
And given how poor some of the recent 40k codices are and the fact that the quality of  support for 40k in WD has also been poor, I for one am pretty happy that GW no longer affords the same 'support' to Inquisitor.

The FFG RPGs provide more than enough excellent inspiration for background and rules, plenty of manufacturers supply fantastic models, and the community (through DM, the 'Clave and other forums, etc) provide pretty much everything else I want in way of support. It'd be nice if GW released (or re-released) some more models, but other than that I'm happier that GW ignore us.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: MarcoSkoll on April 08, 2011, 03:08:01 AM
I'm perfectly happy for GW to just ignore us as they seem to be currently doing - Inquisitor isn't the kind of game that needs (or wants) the kind of rules development GW are currently inclined to give. I've given my laments on them not keeping the old material on their site, but it's not killed us.

Heck, I've actually got more articles in the Archive than the Specialist Games site had at any one time (either PDFs they removed, or Exterminatus articles that never made it into PDFs), and I wouldn't've tracked all those things down if they hadn't axed the site.

Models-wise, GW hasn't released a new Inquisitor model in five years, and they've even taken several things out of the range. Yet, how often do we still hear phrases like "Another fantastic combination I've not seen before" or "I wish I'd thought of that" in the P&M section?

And that's even without considering other manufacturers. I would love to see things like the weapons and hands packs back, but we're not exactly dead here either. And like above, if they hadn't done it, I probably wouldn't have learned to sculpt.

Actually, without all the "setbacks" they've imposed, I might never have even joined the forums. And I imagine there are a few others here who owe a certain amount of their attendance to the fact they wanted to know "What happened to all the articles", "Where did this model go?" or "Does anyone actually still play Inquisitor?". And as we all turn up at Nottingham in force every now and again, the extra numbers may actually make Inquisitor look stronger to GW than it would have done otherwise.

It's a very Istvaanian thing to say, but Inquisitor is showing a great deal of strength through adversity, and may be stronger than if GW had carried on as before.
And provided that they don't actually stop us playing at WHW (which wouldn't exactly stop us either), I would be quite content for all to continue as it is.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Necris on April 08, 2011, 03:15:38 PM
As Dave said I'd like to see some minis re-released or if they sold the licence to another producer to bring some of the old minis back onto the market (Such as citizens) 
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on April 09, 2011, 11:05:32 AM
i like marco's point of view that the community has carried on in spite of gw's lack of commitment to it, and we have and his right a lot of people are head because they have no other place to go for the inq needs
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Eladar on April 09, 2011, 07:00:59 PM
About the size of the community:

I have only just got into inquisitor (by that, I haven't even played a real game yet, just learnt the basics and got my character), and already have got someone else interested in starting.

The community might not be the size of 40k or those sorts of games, but surely it's at least worth releasing a new model once every year or two? I'm sure there'd be plenty of people waiting to snatch them all up.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Heroka Vendile on April 09, 2011, 08:05:44 PM
Not really, the creative process from start-to-finish of designing and releasing a new model isn't cheap - especially creating new moulds and GW won't do it unless there's a guarantied return on investment. With the way tin prices are sky-rocketing lately they want to avoid metal models as much as possible and they wouldn't put any new plastic development into the SGs when there's so much that still needs converted from metal into plastic in the 40k & WFB lines.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on April 14, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
There is one thing that I think GW should change (appart from bringing back models). When I was in Aberdeen, at the GW store, they did not allow me to do a small demo of inquisitor  :'(, even using 40K figures (commissar, kroot, ethereal, ork, storm trooper, scout and pathfinder)
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Ynek on April 16, 2011, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on April 14, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
There is one thing that I think GW should change (appart from bringing back models). When I was in Aberdeen, at the GW store, they did not allow me to do a small demo of inquisitor  :'(, even using 40K figures (commissar, kroot, ethereal, ork, storm trooper, scout and pathfinder)

Nothing to do with me, honest!

I ran into this problem a few years ago, after finishing my second warband. (Which was about the time I started GMing between myself and friends.) I had turned up at the store with my inq. warbands in my carry-case, and when a person I had arranged to play a game with saw them, they sounded interested in giving Inquisitor a try. I asked permission before going ahead any further, purely out of good manners. However, about halfway through the game, some of the more senior members of staff descended upon us like vultures on a freshly fallen wildebeest.

You should have given me a shout, if you were up here looking for a game. :P
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Necris on April 16, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
Unless you are causing trouble in store you are perfectly within your right to complete your game, GW stores are hobby centres and if a member of staff has given you permission to play ANY game you are entilted to finish it regardless of who comes in afterwards at the time of starting you game member of staff X was giviing you leave to play,.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Ynek on April 16, 2011, 01:46:08 PM
Quote from: Necris on April 16, 2011, 09:11:44 AM
Unless you are causing trouble in store

I'm pretty sure that ignoring their polite requests that we pack away the Inquisitor stuff and just continuing to play regardless might have come under this heading. :P

I wasn't too upset about it - I just played a game of 40k instead. I just always remembered it as the landmark occasion where it was no longer acceptable to play Inq. in stores anymore.

Now I just play with friends from uni... Where there's no restrictions on what models we can use, and no restrictions on where we can play.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Adlan on May 26, 2011, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ynek on April 16, 2011, 01:46:08 PM

I wasn't too upset about it - I just played a game of 40k instead. I just always remembered it as the landmark occasion where it was no longer acceptable to play Inq. in stores anymore.

Ganesworkshop manchester was pretty cool about =][=

I went into GW Norwich recently to see an old friend who's now working there, asked if we could run an =][= game, got told not for three weeks. Turns out they are allowing specialist games one night a month.  ::)
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on May 26, 2011, 02:11:43 PM
oh thank you great gods of GW for allowing us specialist games scum into your hallowed stores for one night a month, thats bull crap its a game they produced and should support but that rant is for elsewhere
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Morcus on May 27, 2011, 02:51:24 AM
You got to remember that it's a shop first, no matter what anyone says. The fact you can do other stuff is a bonus.

I buy hoover bags from Curries but they won't let me Hoover there...
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on May 27, 2011, 01:12:35 PM
No GW Stores are called "Hobby Centers"  - that to me would mean that its a place for all of us to go and indulge in our Hobby (Miniatures Modelling and war gaming) considering the stores or "Hobby Centers" Are run and staffed by GW Employees that to me would indicate that you specifically focussed on GW Products, Inquisitor is a GW Product so i should be able to go in there sit down with a model im working on for INQ and paint it and if it is quiet maybe run a game if anyone else is interested.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Dolnikan on May 27, 2011, 01:46:01 PM
First I must confess that I have been inside a GW store only twice and never played in there.

To me it seems logical to only allow games and figures that are sold in the store, after all, the playing area exists because it promotes sales of that store's products. Inquisitor sadly no longer is sold in their stores making it useless to their sales to allow it being played there.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Morcus on May 28, 2011, 07:50:02 AM
You can call a spade a telescope but it will still only be useful for digging. They are shops first and entirely about making money, the other stuff is just a bit of PR, it doesn't make any money directly and it could even put people off (an oft cited reason for not allowing Inq due to complexity).

Bottom line, it's their shop, they can do what they like. They're not a charity, it's all about making money.


Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Molotov on May 28, 2011, 12:10:29 PM
I find myself agreeing with Dolnikan and Morcus. It seems a little petulant to walk into GW and expect Inquisitor to be catered for - somewhat along the same scale as expecting to play old Citadel games from the 1980s (Judge Dredd, Doctor Who, Star Trek?). As Marco often says, Inquisitor doesn't need Games Workshop in its truest sense.

Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on May 28, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
i know all this and its all true but meh i have a meh with gw and untill it passes the meh will continue
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: MarcoSkoll on May 29, 2011, 03:04:23 AM
Quote from: Adlan on May 26, 2011, 01:33:51 PMTurns out they are allowing specialist games one night a month.
Lucky you. I tried asking when I was in my local yesterday. Nada. No SGs at all - not even one night a month.

Apparently, "Specialist Games don't need so much space, so you can usually play them at home".

I said something about not everyone will trust someone they don't know well to invite them, or be invited, to play games in a non-public location. No luck, of course, but I wasn't going to let it go that easily.

It's apparently perfectly legit to be around modelling, painting or talking with the guys, but not gaming. I'm left wondering if a dedicated attempt to raise the profile of SGs in the store could change that. Either way, considering a recruiting drive to find more players.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Stormgrad on May 29, 2011, 08:55:06 AM
well marco id be happy to come up to yours for a weekend and spend the time in your local gw painting/converting Inq minis
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on May 29, 2011, 09:07:01 AM
I'd love to too, but I can't for three reasons. :( 1.a. lack of INQ minis to paint/convert. 1.b. this is due to my lack of pocket money. 2. the distance from N.E. Scotland to London. 3. Strangers (Marco and Stormgrad) yes I really don't know you at all.
Title: Re: New Product from GW
Post by: precinctomega on May 30, 2011, 06:06:11 PM
Huzzah for learning!

R.