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Title: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 24, 2012, 08:33:16 PM
Evening all,

It's been a long time in the works, but the Amalathian Sourcebook has finally been released.  The Amalathian Sourcebook is the latest in a line of sourcebooks that started with Gav Thorpe's Thorian sourcebook and was continued with the Recongregator and Istvaanian books published by Dark Magenta. This book continues in a similar vein to the previous ones, this time delving into the history and background of the Amalathian philosophy a faction of the Inquisition dedicated to maintaining the status-quo and to preserving the Imperium so that the Emperor's grand plan for humanity can run its course.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Random%20Pics/Amalathianpreviewsmall.png)

The sourcebook is available to download from Dark Magenta (http://www.darkmagenta.co.uk/).

We hope you enjoy reading it.  Any and all comments gratefully received.

 - Dave
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Saussure on January 24, 2012, 08:44:27 PM
Other people are posting announcements too quickly for my over-worked fingers!

I was about to let you all know about this wonderful new Sourcebook over at Dark Magenta, but Dave's beaten me to it. Suffice to say, it's a wonderful piece of work by all the authors, and is filled with some gorgeous 54mm models. There's even a few famous Conclave faces within the pages of the Character Section.

Download it as soon as you can, one and all - you'll be glad you did!
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Draco Ferox on January 24, 2012, 08:59:17 PM
Yay! Where's the emoticon for jumping up and down with joy?
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Macabre on January 24, 2012, 10:11:11 PM
 According to the DM website, the source book was released this time last year...

The boss is slipping ;D
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 24, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
Probably meant it should have been released this time last year!
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: greenstuff_gav on January 24, 2012, 10:19:25 PM
According to the DM website, the source book was released this time last year...

nonsense ;)
curse this decimal-based orbital measuring system!
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Saussure on January 24, 2012, 11:12:34 PM
According to the DM website, the source book was released this time last year...

The boss is slipping ;D

Rubbish! The Machine Spirit is incapable of error...  ;)
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Ancelyn on January 25, 2012, 02:50:18 AM
Wow! An amazing piece of work and the cover art is stunning. Great job. Each new source book is an imrovement on the previous. Big thumbs up ;D
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Dolnikan on January 25, 2012, 07:18:34 AM
It's a beautiful piece of art. Very informartive and really great models.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 25, 2012, 07:35:49 AM
the cover art is stunning.
Thanks should go to lord.dubu for the cover art (you can visit his gallery at lord-dubu.deviantart.com (http://lord-dubu.deviantart.com)). For a while the pictures of my models that's now on the back cover looked like it would be the front cover, but fortunately lord.dubu allowed us to us his artwork which looks a lot nicer. :)
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Heroka Vendile on January 25, 2012, 02:55:23 PM
Great stuff guys, I know you've been working on this one in the background literally for years.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Ancelyn on January 25, 2012, 04:53:50 PM
Cheers Dave for the link. What a talent. Once again, great work! Love the neon-ish lettering. It shouldn't work... but it does. The stories are great. Only half way through it, but enjoying it greatly.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on January 25, 2012, 05:40:16 PM
That's helped me with the alignment of Octavian Lars, thanks!
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 25, 2012, 06:33:18 PM
I guess the big question is anyone going to step forward and write one for the Monodominants or Xanthites? There have been a few attempts to get them off the ground and it'd be cool to have a whole set. And if anyone does fancy writing the next one then I'd be happy to contribute or help in any way I can.

At one time I was tempted to turn the AdMech article I wrote for DM into one chapter of a Mechanicus Sourcebook - but I never had ideas for enough material to really fill out the whole book. I do think it'd be great to have such a thing though... The same goes for Rogue Traders and a few other groups as well.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Draco Ferox on January 25, 2012, 08:54:49 PM
BURN THE WITCH! BURN THE XENOS! BURN THE HERETIC! BURN THE UNBELIEVER! BURN THOSE WHO DISAGREE!

Well, that's the monodominant book sorted....
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 25, 2012, 09:12:33 PM
 ;D

Joking aside - the good thing about the sourcebooks is that it gives us chance to look at different views of a faction rather than just the same old stereotypes and cliches.  For example, people always seemed to portray Recongregators as the bad guys, so when I wrote that book I tried to show them as good guys instead.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 25, 2012, 09:15:32 PM
I'd agree that I'd prefer to see the Monodominant book demonstrate that it doesn't have to be that kind of extremist view.

A lot of people make Inquisitors Amalathian by default, when Monodominantism with a more discerning interpretation of the guilty is probably far more appropriate.

I see the basic principle of Monodominantism, that of the Imperium destroying the Emperor's enemies, as the default viewpoint of the Imperium and the primary job of the Inquisition. It just happens that it's usually stereotyped to the bombastic zealot with a narrow view of what counts as an enemy instead.

Is not the mutant Navigator not one of the Emperor's loyal servants, and the same to be said of the Astropath who once gazed upon the Golden Throne and felt His divinity in person?
These are not the enemies of the Emperor. These are the means by which we might smite them.

Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Van Helser on January 25, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
You all have no idea how happy I am to see this finally available for the world to see! As Heroka says, it has been years in the making!

I guess the big question is anyone going to step forward and write one for the Monodominants or Xanthites? There have been a few attempts to get them off the ground and it'd be cool to have a whole set. And if anyone does fancy writing the next one then I'd be happy to contribute or help in any way I can.

At one time I was tempted to turn the AdMech article I wrote for DM into one chapter of a Mechanicus Sourcebook - but I never had ideas for enough material to really fill out the whole book. I do think it'd be great to have such a thing though... The same goes for Rogue Traders and a few other groups as well.

Since we put the finishing touches on the Amalathian one I have been contemplating the Xanthtite side of things and have dug out Ben's thoughts from way back when. I did some preliminary thoughts about the Chaoticians (the predecessors to the Xanthite movement) that never saw the light of day along with some faction ideas and am in the process of collating it all. I'm going to speak to Ben to see if he's out the game now once that's done and work out where to take things (hello if you're reading!). Naturally, if others have ideas I'd love to hear them!

I also have ideas on mutants, sub-humans, the insane and the general dregs of humanity - perhaps a sourcebook on Imperial Society would be a place for them, the AdMech and Rogue Traders?

Ruaridh
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Dolnikan on January 25, 2012, 09:46:03 PM
There is more to being a monodominant than just that, there is also the careful investigating before striking and destroying all of the vile heretics, and a few who will be heretics somewhere in the future, perhaps.

I have some ideas for them but I'm afraid that I won;t have the time, and more importantly, the skill, to write such a book.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Macabre on January 25, 2012, 10:13:06 PM
At one time I was tempted to turn the AdMech article I wrote for DM into one chapter of a Mechanicus Sourcebook - but I never had ideas for enough material to really fill out the whole book. I do think it'd be great to have such a thing though..

As the owner of probably the largest (albeit unpainted) AdMech warband on the Conclave, I would relish the opportunity to help with an AdMech sourcebook as I have quite a few ideas of my own.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 25, 2012, 10:35:37 PM
As the owner of probably the largest (albeit unpainted) AdMech warband on the Conclave, I would relish the opportunity to help with an AdMech sourcebook as I have quite a few ideas of my own.
To be honest, after the gruelling effort of getting the Amalathian book done I'm not sure I want to work on another book just yet. That said, if you want to take the lead on such a project I'm happy to brainstorm ideas with you and may be tempted to write a section or two.

Sounds like you have some painting to do too...
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Macabre on January 25, 2012, 11:14:33 PM
I'm hopeless at taking the lead on anything and much prefer to just contribute. If I was any good compiling projects, I would have had the Terra Conspiracies conspiracy book finished years ago :p
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Draco Ferox on January 26, 2012, 10:08:40 AM
I like how the sourcebooks don't have to portray the stereotypes, and I can easily see the monodominant book being an interestig prospect. I think Marco's idea about the monodominant using humans with useful mutations to smite his enemies, but think that he would treat them as sub-human, and maybe use them simply because if they get killed, it's one less living mutant in the imperium.

Sub-factions within the monodominant faction could be interestig, with some who won't tolerate mutants through to those who believe that while it is humanity's right to rulethe stars, humanity always evolves, and mutants are the next step in the evolution of the human race, and therefore more worthy successors.

The Xanthite sourcebook would be a great place to introduce some more 'exotic' wargear, such as an Anathame (anyone read false gods?), and also, imperial technology which is regarded as heretical. One needn't use /chaos weapons to cross the line...

EDIT: I would also support the background of Marco's namesake appearing in the next dark magenta, as that way, we could slowly get people more familiar with most of the characters they would see at conclaves. We've had Sassure and Kaled, so why not Marco. Plus, it would make a good few pages of reading for the magazine.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 26, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
Macabre - why not start threads for your Terran Conspiracies and the AdMech sourcebook ideas and see if anyone else wants to help.

I'm hoping a few people who haven't written before will feel inspired and take the opportunity to write some articles for DM. No one should feel that DM is just for veterans to write - anyone can submit articles. Articles can be long or short, so don't feel that you have to write something the length of a sourcebook - it could just be a couple of pages. And if you have a great idea for an article but don't think you're a good enough writer them submit it anyway and the DM editors will find someone who can work with you to get your article ready for publication.

If anyone is interested in writing something, please feel free to send me a PM and I'll be happy to help (and I'm sure Saussure would be happy to hear from you too).

 - Dave
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: RobSkib on January 27, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
Excellent stuff, great to finally see this to fruition! I'll be using this as bedtime reading for the next week or so :)

Quick question, should I start uploading some of the special abilities from the sourcebook to the Carthax wiki?
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Kaled on January 27, 2012, 03:25:44 PM
That would be good, thanks.
Title: Re: The Amalathian Sourcebook
Post by: Heroka Vendile on January 28, 2012, 01:27:11 AM
One thought I've had is that in companion with the Sourcebooks, people could produce Primers. So that while the Sourcebooks provide the nitty-gritty about an organisation or faction, a Primer would give an over arcing description of the history, geography and politics in a sector, sub-sector or even on a specific (important) planet.
A bit like taking Robey's article about fighting on Holy Terra and expanding it to source-book size.

It would, I feel, allow a much more easily digestible way of putting large amounts of information about X location than filling the Carthax wiki with dozens of pages.