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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => The Dark Millennium => Topic started by: Dwi on March 17, 2012, 07:57:08 PM

Title: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Dwi on March 17, 2012, 07:57:08 PM
...Who would you be? What loadout would you take etc? This is a question I often ask myself when I am feeling... 40K reflective I guess you could say, I thought I would ask as meny people I know often base their chars of themselfs and all that.

Me I don't think i could be anything other than a Desperado arch-tipe as I would pretty much suck as everything els. I not a very disaplined person though I follow orders and the rules to the letter but I am not a very agresseve person eather so that pretty much rules out everything Navy and Guard, preachers, Comms etc. I am not good with tech (though I do know my may around some of it) so no AdMech, No powers So I an't a psyker and most importently I'm a little bit of a coward so all that stuff is not really my thing, could I face down something scary? Maybe, preferably with a whole feck ton of people in front of me, but I would prefur to get the hell out of there than try to kill it and get a shot at being a hero.

Now as we are talking abut 40k/IQ it wuold mean I would have to fight and in that case I would prefur a Hunting Rifle, Long Las etc so I can sat as far away from the bad guys as I can. If I HAD to get up close probably a Hand axe or a pair of Brass Knuckles would be my choice. A shotgun would also be on the list due to it's driffrent ammo tipes and over all ruggedness.

As for armour, a helmet is a must for me, after all, can't work with bits of frag in your brain. For the body I would prefur something to protect but light enough that I can leg it I have too.

What about you guys?
 
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on March 17, 2012, 08:52:50 PM
My character Octavian Griess-Lars was designed as an "ideal" me, but if I had to go as I acually am, I would go as an elite combat guy/storm trooper with a compact hellcarbine! (for the adrenaline rush)
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Dolnikan on March 17, 2012, 09:41:41 PM
All my characters are based on facets of who I am. To represent myself I would probably go for a magos biologis, I am a biologist after all. I am very cowardly so to fight I would try to get some servitors but mostly to stay away from dangerous situations.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: krenshar on March 18, 2012, 01:07:58 AM
I like to think that I'd be a savant or interrogator (if in the Carl Thonius mould, except without the fine dress-sense and flect habit).  But having failed to get qualifications first in blacksmithing and then in civil engineering, I suspect I'd be a fabrication servitor by now.  So when pressed into field service, I'd have overalls, some vat-muscle, a leather apron if the Mechanicus smiled on me and a hammer in place of one hand.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: TallulahBelle on March 18, 2012, 01:36:33 AM
I would either be a savant with a cane or an archivist or some sort of duelist/techie sword and pistol for me with a small bag of explosives
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 18, 2012, 02:08:01 AM
To try and put some more "on topic" into this (as the 'Clave isn't big on General Chat/Off Topic stuff), basing a character straight on oneself isn't a great move. As it involves "Me if I were more awesome", it means that someone disliking the character can be taken as something of a personal insult.

Sure, using elements of yourself in a character is fine - it can help identify with the character when roleplaying and they say to write what you know - but using too much of yourself isn't really something you want to get into.

As for who I'd be, I'd most likely be the heretic being burnt at the stake. I'm too rational, tolerant, autistic and atheist to be tolerated in the Grim Dark. Frankly, I'm surprised I'm allowed in this universe.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Inquisitor Octavian Lars on March 18, 2012, 08:19:13 AM
As for who I'd be, I'd most likely be the heretic being burnt at the stake. I'm too rational, tolerant, autistic and atheist to be tolerated in the Grim Dark. Frankly, I'm surprised I'm allowed in this universe.

All this is me as well ;D
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: seiterarch on March 18, 2012, 02:52:40 PM
[...] basing a character straight on oneself isn't a great move. As it involves "Me if I were more awesome", it means that someone disliking the character can be taken as something of a personal insult. [...]

I think part of the issue could be with people basing the character central to a warband off themselves.  Because of the nature of =][=, the such a character is almost invariably going to be "Me if I were more awesome" or it would feel a little out of place.  A peripheral character could be pretty much anyone though, as there isn't so much need for justification if their reason for being on the table is simply, "The main character brought them along for field experience/specialist tasks/someone to take the blame if all goes wrong." Obviously the last part of what you said holds, you would just have to be prepared to take it on the chin if it comes to that.

I think I could put myself into the game without much changing. I'd be an initiate of the Mechanicum, at a level where I'd been given a modicum of freedom to work as I pleased. I'd always be haring off with a thousand and one interesting (possibly only in my opinion) projects in just about every topic, never quite finishing any of them. As a sideline, my mechanical appendages would have a mysterious tendency to fall apart.  Weaponry and equipment is largely beside the point for the character, it would probably just be something easy to come by (in universe) and not too cumbersome.

Characters like this might seem a little underpowered in a game, but they could work as specialists in a warband or just as a comic foil. Not sure whether I'll ever make this character, but it's an idea if I do an AdMech warband.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 18, 2012, 02:57:53 PM
I have a character that is based on my interests (he's a mystic, a philosopher of sorts, a political manipulator, fascinated by the concept of complexity and combination, a sort of 40K Discordian with less humour),  has a bionic arm in part because of a recurring dream of mine from a few years back, and has a name taken from the pen name of my grandfather... but he's not me, at all.

If I were in Inquisitor I would probably have been servitorised for something, that or shuffled off into one of the more contemplative orders of the Ecclesiarchy.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Trasher on March 18, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
The only role I could see myself fit in would be as an Imperial Guard, possibly Valhallan, seeing as I did my military service in Boden, Sweden, which is pretty far up north. Armed with a lasgun or perhaps something akin to a heavy stubber, and a few frag grenades.  I'd have pretty thin armour, prefering flexibility over protection, probably just against shrapnel. A small radio would be good to have too, and some rope.

So Dwi, is this just out of general interest, did you just want to tell us who you'd be, or is this a kind of survey?
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Brother_Brimstone on March 18, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
I always find questions like this a bit problematic. To face facts, the majority of members of the imperium are, for want of a better term, rabble - peasants, underhivers, industrial workers etc... By statistics alone it's almost certain we would be either a home-front worker or, at best, cannon fodder. It's also kind of difficult insofar as education in the Imperium is nothing like what we have now, so while someone now might have a degree in engineering, it hardly means they would be an Imperial engineer.

To ruin the fun even more, i have an issue with this kind of view of 'you' if you were born under completely different conditions. After all, what are we classing as 'you' here? Your particular genetic composition? Your particular personality/ personal identity? If it's the former, then we cannot say what we would be, as we simply don't know enough about how our particular composition would turn out under vastly different conditions, and if it's the latter, then there would be no 'you' in 40k, as a large amount of our personal identity is determined by our sociocultural identity. For reasons of philosophy, i'm a personal identity skeptic, but regardless, it seems that unless you're willing to make some pretty big metaphysical claims regarding some immutable soul or abstracted Cartesian Identity, there is nothing that is a 'you' which can be hypothesised about.

Based on this answer alone, i think it's pretty evident that if there were some kind of 'me' in 40k, he would have been executed long ago for asking far too many questions...

(i'm not meaning to ruin this thread or sound dismissive towards anyone involved, I just thought i'd throw a couple of my thoughts on the matter out there. I hate that the internet is so incapable of conveying tone that I feel forced to add a disclaimer of this sort, but i'd rather that than be misconstrued.)
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 18, 2012, 04:24:18 PM
Brimstone - I understand the problem of "what if I were X" (classic examples include "What if I were Napoleon?") but I think there is a set of meaningful ways to interpret this. Firstly, is the "teleportation" issue - find yourself with all your current knowledge in a midhive township on Necromunda, what do you do? The other is a claim that there are a set of dispositional properties, attitudes and beliefs, that define us more clearly than a biological or strictly sociocultural position, along with the claim that those attitudes and beliefs are in some sense universally possible (pretty contentious for beliefs, less so for the fuzzier idea of attitudes). So, my "Andrej Cass" character has some of my properties, though I have intentionally not given him all of my properties. However, I could have, even with a different origin, and so I can ask "what would I (or someone sufficiently like me to be comparable) do and what would I be likely to achieve in a different world?" and still make sense.

However, I agree that making yourself your character is a troubling thing, for a couple reasons - one is the personal insult reason that Marco mentioned, the other is that you might miss out on the fun of being totally different. When I get round to playing Mass Effect, I will definitely be playing bad-ass space lesbian, partly for the fun of totally not being me at all.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Brother_Brimstone on March 18, 2012, 04:30:15 PM
I agree, but with the 'teleportation' claim, then surely anyone's answer would be 'alone, confused and with a very short life span'. With the 'dispositional properties' angle of things, i just find the whole thing arbitrary. What decides that me 'being a good reasoner' is a dispositional attitude, but 'really liking pork chops' is not. As i say, i'm a skeptic for personal identity. i don't believe there's any viable non-arbitrary criterion for selection of what is and isn't relevant to 'you'.

Still, i don't want to overly derail the thread, as i realise that we are both philosophy students; a group not known for their ability to simply drop an issue without it being talked to death :p
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: TallulahBelle on March 18, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
I tend to write characters I think are cool rather than base off me. i would really struggle to build off myself as the archetype of anyone.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Dolnikan on March 18, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
What I mean by basing them on me is that I take some aspects of my own personality and insert them into my characters. In this way I can much more easily get into their mindsets to make their behaviour make sense. A character with my own personality would be immensely boring, but some parts can be used with some other properties to make a nice character.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Dwi on March 18, 2012, 10:23:12 PM
@Trasher:
So Dwi, is this just out of general interest, did you just want to tell us who you'd be, or is this a kind of survey?

I just thought that it would be something interesting and driffrent compared to the normal "This Guys like..." or "I don't like this char..." sort of thing we got here. That and I wanted to get your thoughts on things like this as I have been toying with the idea.

And I like to get to know my fellow forum mates a bit. Something wrong with that?


I always find questions like this a bit problematic. To face facts, the majority of members of the imperium are, for want of a better term, rabble - peasants, underhivers, industrial workers etc... By statistics alone it's almost certain we would be either a home-front worker or, at best, cannon fodder. It's also kind of difficult insofar as education in the Imperium is nothing like what we have now, so while someone now might have a degree in engineering, it hardly means they would be an Imperial engineer.

Thats fine for me as my whole family and myself for that matter, is/are/have been, pretty much what you just said. I myself like ships and boats so my in game/40K guy I would like to thing would, most likely be a Fraight/Cargo ship Captain if we are goeing down the line of hands on work like you said. Most likely I would have my char ship the IQ agents around or something as a backgrouing char/NPC.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Trasher on March 19, 2012, 08:29:23 AM
"Something wrong with that?" Oh not at all! You might've misinterpreted me, I just wanted to know what you meant to do with this :) I find the answers of this thread pretty interesting.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Adlan on March 20, 2012, 05:41:58 PM
I based one of my characters, Rifleman Verger, on what I'd do in a game of Inquisitor. And when I say what I'd do, I don't mean run away from the horrible grimdark monsters, you know what I mean. I try and play him as if he's following the basic skills and drills from the TA. It is kinda gutting when I keep only getting aim actions, but that's the way I'd actually be, and it's more fun to play with limitations.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Ynek on March 22, 2012, 12:10:35 AM
And I like to get to know my fellow forum mates a bit. Something wrong with that?

It might interest you to know that there's a general-purpose forum in the conclave's extended family of websites, called 'arkhan's mind'. (If memory serves me correctly. I can't honestly say that I visit it very often as my desire for inane banter is usually satiated by colleagues, and the strange barflies (as in "shouldn't you be hanging around a pub closer to hogwarts?) people who tend to hang around in my local bar, so I don't often feel the need to hop over to The 'Mind.

It's just that if you want to get to know the conclave sages in a more relaxed, less 'topic locked' way, that's where you'd get the best results.

Anyway, if I were an Inquisitor character, I would probably be a pariah. (People find me scary/creepy for no apparent reason. Seriously. It makes it difficult to meet women. Apparently, I just have a scary aura. Since pariahs don't exist in real life, but they do in the 40kverse, I'm fairly confident I would be one of them.) I would have a moderate weapon skill, moderate ballistic skill (around WS60/BS40) mediocre S+T, relatively high sagacity (I can solve problems pretty swiftly) and probably a stupidly high willpower stat. (I'm notoriously difficult to negotiate with.)

I would probably have been a petty crook on the streets of some ungodly hive somewhere. With my natural scariness and pariahness, gangs would have been unwilling to let me join, so I would probably have made a life as a solo-operator, like an informant, mugger or pickpocket. Maybe I'd get picked up by a more interesting organisation, but maybe not...
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 22, 2012, 12:38:14 AM
It might interest you to know that there's a general-purpose forum in the conclave's extended family of websites, called 'arkhan's mind'.
It's not been posted on since October and it was getting about a post a week before that. It has, essentially, been abandoned.
(I never found it helped that people often had different names on both. For an only occasional attendee, keeping track of who was who and who was/wasn't on the Conclave wasn't very easy.)

But yeah, the Conclave isn't really keen on off topic general chat kind of stuff.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Dwi on March 22, 2012, 12:47:38 AM
I would probably have been a petty crook on the streets of some ungodly hive somewhere. With my natural scariness and pariahness, gangs would have been unwilling to let me join, so I would probably have made a life as a solo-operator, like an informant, mugger or pickpocket. Maybe I'd get picked up by a more interesting organisation, but maybe not...

I just got this image of you running around with two post pistols like the scummer hired gun from Nercomunda yelling "I am Pariah!"
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: RobSkib on March 28, 2012, 11:40:07 AM
I believe that all characters have some small amount of self injected into them in creation, whether intentional or not. I know I'm guilty of that, and some of the characters I have written hit incredibly close to the similarity mark, however, no model I've found has managed to capture the quantities of handsome required for a true doppelganger ;)
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Easy E on April 10, 2012, 08:31:06 PM
If for some reason, I tried to create a character that had some of my traits in Inquisitor here are some of the traits I would consider:

1. Good at researching/archiving things
2. Charismatic leader
3. A bit like a bull-in-a-China shop when it comes to process
4. Not very politically/organizationaly agile
5. Introverted

If a character had all of these traits, they could be an okay Inquisitor/Alcolyte type character. 
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Necris on April 13, 2012, 11:42:33 PM
If I existed in 40K I'd be a failed Tech Priest Adept reduced to manning the ranks of the Skitarii with a bionic legs because lets face it I need them, I'd have a preference for combat weapons over guns as I am a much better swordsman than I am a marksman and I'd more than likely die in my first battle as I'm a big clumsy bugger
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Akuro Adenn on June 21, 2012, 08:14:42 AM
Personally, I probably would have ended up as an AdMech Artisan with control of a forge ship or two. I'd have probably taken that and ran to the outskirts, going Heretek and taking everyone with me.

On a side note of the whole self insertion bit, it usually helps lend credence if one actually looks at the factors it would have taken to get them to where they were so similar. While it wouldn't be 'you', it would be close enough for most.

And I personally take particular traits as the main theme for some characters. I actually have a somewhat fragmented personality, so there are a lot to choose from.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Seargent Maxwell Forest on November 27, 2012, 08:06:39 AM
I based all my inquisitor characters on myself and others.

My latest character is everything I want to be:
Manipulative
Always wears his blank mask [Those who don't show love, fear and guilt make the best killers]
Lets others do the dirty work and finishes the rest himself.

Whenever I think about basing a character on a person I think about their individual chareteristics and then add things to make them that awesome Inquisitor character.
Title: Re: If YOU were in Inquisitor...
Post by: Serge on December 15, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
Honestly, I'd be Voidborn (of planetary nobility linage), either as some kind of entertainer or sent to the Eversor temple for training at young age. Or simply an adept. (I never did any military duty, but was told by the "recruiters" that if I'd did, I'd serve as the guy who keeps track of all the maps for the tacticians, with possibility to become a tactician or something later if I stayed. I sometimes wonder why I declined. Spatial Genius is not Logical Genius. )