Were do you get yours, metal or plastic, from?
Checking out the sites listed under the Resources sticky, some are dead and I imagine there are new ones which are not listed now?
A lot of the time, my 28mm bitz box. While I mentioned it being a nuisance in the other thread, GW's heroic style means that weapons and sometimes other things like hands are often so exaggerated in size as to be suitable for realistic 54mm miniatures.
The squad of "Cadians" I've put together use Lasguns from the Shock Trooper box, just with lengthened stocks (usually the ones left over after cutting away the original Lee-Enfield rifles, but sometimes plasticard instead). With the longer butt, they proportion well and measure up about 30mm long, proportionally about three feet long, a common length for a real world assault rifle.
Similarly, Sister Phoenix's Godwyn-Deaz bolter is a lightly converted Forge World Phobos pattern.
Even on heroic 54mm miniatures, 28mm rifles and heavy weapons can often be converted quite adequately into their smaller variants... or sometimes other options. I've seen bolters with their magazines and muzzle brakes cut off, which makes quite a nice stubber in the hands of a bulky 54mm miniature.
Sgt. Gillmore has a hellpistol that's a cut down lasgun, Inquisitor Skoll's (his new model, not the old one) stubber is a cut-down SMG from Heresy Minatures, and so on and so forth.
You can get particularly creative with combining parts, if you want:
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/RagnarokEOTW/IMG_2252-1.jpg)
This is Frost's coil-rifle*, made from variously lasgun, bolter and plasma gun pieces - although it is a little less detailed than I originally designed it (http://fav.me/d2bg0c5), which was mostly a question of whether I could make something look distinctly Imperial yet also unfamiliar.
*Hence the appearance of two magazines. It fires solid projectiles (from the rear magazine) using electromagnetic fields (powered by the lasgun cell).
And if you want weapons with the same rough proportions as those of GW's 28mm models, the Ork weapons are generally a perfect fit for 54mm stuff. I've converted some stuff, but I've also just stuck Ork weapons into 54mm hands with no problems.
Yep, basically anything that stands on a 40mm base: Nobs, Ogres, Ogryns etc
But one of my minis (the hive scum from my fig topic) has the hand of the 28mm empire general - it's a more accurately scaled figure from Andrea
Has any of you an experience with the standard 1:35 WW2 weapon sets (Italeri etc)? I never tried them fearing they're too small...
I used a crew-served machine gun barrel once as a rifle-sized weapon barrel. They look like toothpicks in GW hands...
Yeah, as DapperAnarchist says, it really depends on what model you want to attach a 1:35 weapon to. It would probably be okay on a 1:32 scale figure, but a GW 54mm model is just too bulky.
To suit most models in the original range, I'd reckon that you'd need about 1:18 scale. Possibly some slighter models/larger weapons would get away with 1:24 scale.
I've been thinking for some time about the possibilities of sculpting a range of weapons on zbrush and selling prints of them in the Shapeways shop. Would people be interested in that? If so I'd need to see some drawings/pictures of the kind of weapons you'd like to have.
Quote from: Cortez on September 22, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
I've been thinking for some time about the possibilities of sculpting a range of weapons on zbrush and selling prints of them in the Shapeways shop. Would people be interested in that? If so I'd need to see some drawings/pictures of the kind of weapons you'd like to have.
Definitely. Honestly anything would be great. Las weapons, stub weapons, even more traditional looking fire arms. Some new CCW's (chain weapons of various make) would be pretty neat as well. Anything to vary it up.
Old topic, I know, but I see no point opening a new one with the same topic.
I started some weapons in 3D and will most likely print them later this year.
First one is a Heavy Bolter.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rP9sFYYYKURy1oa1pFanQtRTg/view?usp=sharing
I just have a problem to make it the perfect size.
Currently it is 37mm long
Glad to see you made it here from the SG FB page.
It looks great. 37mm is a bit smaller than Artemis's boltgun... I assume you are wanting to embiggen it?
Ruaridh
I have Artemis and indeed his bolter is HUGE. Putting that into a standard human hand is insanely large. But so are space marines.
I was basing the size on this. The guy has a heavy bolter. If he is 28mm tall, then his heavy bolter is around 20mm.
Resizing it to 54mm, then the heavy bolter becomes 38mm
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rP9sFYYYKUaDV6YkM2MVlEWFk
Here are the custom weapons I have. The bolter is 25mm.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rP9sFYYYKUREZhUkN4VTJGaWs
Glad you made it here also. Although from Ebay ;) Your weapons were great quality and I'm still trying to figure out what model I shall use them on :D
Eagerly awaiting the new additions to the range!
Looks great!
If you want free 3d prints for your designs, I can put them on one of our machines if i can get a cast set ;) Will be super for conversions hehe
http://zealotminiatures.com/production/
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On a semi-related question, what sort of scales do you have to work at in 3d modelling programs to get the models/sculpts to the correct scale for 3d printing?
Does it have to be literally using mm scaling?
And do you have to split, say, a 54mm sculpt into pieces for the 3d printing to work correctly?
Quote from: Legio Destructor on September 29, 2016, 06:52:38 AMI was basing the size on this. The guy has a heavy bolter. If he is 28mm tall, then his heavy bolter is around 20mm.
Most GW models are closer to 32mm overall, and Harker is supposed to be a hulking brute even by those standards.
If you're working out scaling from a picture, it's generally more accurate to use the model's base as the point of reference (as they're almost always one of a specific few sizes). He's on a 25mm base, so comparing to that, he's about 34mm tall and the heavy bolter closer to 24mm.
From there, exactly how you scale up to 54mm depends. Personally, for my sculpts, which use more realistic proportions than the exaggerated and chunky "heroic" style that GW uses, I find the similarly exaggerated 28mm weapons are actually about the right size - with little more than an extended barrel and stock every now and again.
For a bulkier GW sculpt, then you tend to need to scale up by about 75-100%, dependent on the exact weapon. (Less for pistols, more for heavy weapons).
Personally, I'd say about 45mm would be broadly right for a heavy bolter that needed to match a GW Inquisitor model.
Thantos: Thanks!! Email sent!
McJomar: I use mm as scale. single piece print for the bolter and laspistol linked above.
MarcoSkoll: thanks! The base size measuring did not occur to me. But it is the best idea.
Will rescale then! If it is too big, can reprint it later anyway.
Pistols I will scale according to the Inq models I have already.
In the meantime I did a grenade launcher, needle pistol etc.
will link the pictures this weekend.
want to do a chainsword, chainaxe, sword etc.
in the making...
http://bit.ly/INQ-54mm
Some nice stuff in here, keep going :)
Aha! I knew my eyes weren't deceiving me! There *was* some 54mm cast weapons doing the rounds on ebay a little while ago. Are you planning on putting some more up any time soon?
Nice designs! Just keep us informed when they're available!
Colour me curious, especially as I may need some 54mm scale guns/weapons for converting non-gw models in future.
Oh Legio, please let me know when you have some of those weapons (any of them, but especially that shotty) available! I'm a uni student now, so I'm hoping I'll be able to pick some up while I still have money ^^.
hand flamer...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rP9sFYYYKUWC1wN3RkRHBhalE
Looking good.
Please please please don't fall off the face of the internet like so many other promising 54mm weapon projects! I like what I see, and payday has crept up behind me and tapping me on the shoulder...
No worries. I am doing a webber right now. Will do 2-3 more, then off to the printers.
I will be abroad for 10 days from next friday, but when I am back, I will continue this. Also asked a friend who is good with greenstuff to help me out with 1-2 ideas I have...
Back from abroad...
New weapon done. Webber.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rP9sFYYYKULVp6SkJTRTFjMVk
Maybe one more, then off to print.
Pondering what to do.
Was also thinking about a mechanicus style blade.
The webber looks great. To be honest, anything to increase the range would be nice. An actual, decent looking autopistol would be great though. That or a couple of power Swords (human scale) would be nice.
Autopistols-wise I've been using old 2nd ed ones occasionally, and they're in scale and gloriously goofy.
That webber looks great.
I'm interested to see how well it works with standard =][= minis, and with less heroically scaled ones as well.
If I was to request a gun, I'd probably ask for various scaled plasma weapons, for both humans, and Astartes.
I love plasma. ;D
Actually, yeah. Some Space Marine scaled weapons would be fantastic. Something other than the Bolter/Power sword combo would be awesome. Maybe a Power Axe, Hammer and Pistols would be awesome. A great big two handed sword like the one the Emperors Champion carried would be all full of win.
If you could make one of the new combi heavy bolter/Flamers it would be hard for me to resist as I have a deathwatch space wolf long fang who is in need of a big gun :)
two more... (need some small changes)
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rP9sFYYYKUY2drR1d1cmxvaG8
I will do 1-2 more firearms, then 1-2 close combat weapons. Then really off to the printer.
I'm interested too - just doing some 54mm figures for cross-genre SF campaign games...
The project did not die.
I am sending the files to the printers after xmas!
Quote from: Thantos on September 30, 2016, 08:49:49 AM
Looks great!
If you want free 3d prints for your designs, I can put them on one of our machines if i can get a cast set ;) Will be super for conversions hehe
http://zealotminiatures.com/production/
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Just shared the files with you as promised via email!
So the project is not dead, guys!!
And just printed these and sent off :D Awesome details, as good and better than any GW =][= weapons sets!
Looking forward to seeing them finished and available ^-^
I concur. Let us all know when these appear on ebay.
I will put them up here first.
will notify you when it is delivered and will take some pictures.
Then I am sending them to the caster.
Excellent news - looking forward to getting hold of some.
With the help of Thantos, I can now show you the prints!
These turned out soooooo good, I could not believe.
The grey ones are not my designs.
the scale night not be perfect for all, but will be fine for now
a minor problem with the flamer, but I will fix it with GS
http://bit.ly/54mmINQ
sending them to the caster soon. will see how he can fit this in his schedule.
Wow. Just Wow. You, Sir, are doing stuff for this corner of the Hobby no one has done for AGES.
They look pretty chunky so I'm thinking they might be more Marine scaled weapons? The Special weapons, Heavy Bolter, Needle Pistol and Webber(?) look fantastic though and make me want to start my Guard squad :D
I'll probably be interested in buying one set, maybe two full sets of these.
I can do a lot of work with this stuff.
Fantastic job ;D
nice, a cursory glance makes me think i can make the combi heavy bolter/flamer from this set anyway so ignore my earlier request.
any ideas on price per set yet?
They do look rather splendid - put me down for at least one set please. Thanks for all the effort you are putting in to this.
I'd be down for a set too, well done sir.
Add me to the list. I can never get enough weapons.
they are indeed fantastic. put me down for 2 sets
I'm interested in a set myself, out USA-way, if that's possible. :D
I would love a couple of sets!
It warms my ancient heart to see fans bringing their 54mm creations to life and sharing them with the community, thank you
many thanks to everyone!
will keep you updated!
caster will not be able to handle them before mid february, but he also likes them and will give me an estimate as soon as he has them in his hands
I would love one of those sets, they all look amazing! especially the heavy bolter (Im currently planning a chaos space marine team) I've been scanning the Web for stuff that would fit and raiding the old bits box but nothing ive found even comes close to those.
Hows the caster doing on these? ;D looking forward to see them in resin!
phewwww....
was a long wait. The caster has finished his pending jobs and sent me a picture that made me happy.
check page 1 under this link
http://bit.ly/54mmINQ (http://bit.ly/54mmINQ)
Will be shipped to me for checking, then we can start cast more of them. I am waiting for a price estimate then I can share how you can get some.
Most likely it will be available as a package, not as individual weapons.
I thought you'd abandoned this! Nice to see this is actually happening. ;D Sign me up for 3 sets please :D
These look spot on! Excited to get my hands on a set!
I too have sorted some new weapons!
Preview set will be arriving with me at the end of June!
(http://i.imgur.com/K6rioUm.jpg)
these are cool!
Looking forward to the heavy bolter, let's hope the postman is quick and these are available really soon
I think I'd love to grab at least one of both of those sets.
I'd be so down for one of each of these sets!
Quote from: gpemby on June 15, 2017, 08:53:01 AM
These look spot on! Excited to get my hands on a set!
I too have sorted some new weapons!
Preview set will be arriving with me at the end of June!
(http://i.imgur.com/K6rioUm.jpg)
Those are awesome!
Oh I'd love to get either/all of those sets, weapons galore!
My 3D prints are in!
(http://i.imgur.com/BV2qr3z.jpg?2)
Just got to get them home and check the scale and how they match up!
Ooh! Very nice!
Keep us posted on when we can get hold of a set of these! :D
Those look absolutely great.
Hope they scale nicely.
Really dig the scoped sniper rifle witht he vented barrel.
(http://i.imgur.com/g8dglQl.jpg?1)
Scale looks good for most! C&C?
Looks great :D Although shapeways "frosted" (objet 30 pro vero clear) is a pain to make moulds from with it's frosted surface texture. Really reduces mouldlife when casting. You will want to give them a solid coat of primer before mouldmaking to help with this.
Or next time send them this way and will do some higher resolution prints for you, free if you send a few casts :D like we did with Legio Destructor's guns :)
Quote from: Thantos on June 22, 2017, 09:51:25 AM
Looks great :D Although shapeways "frosted" (objet 30 pro vero clear) is a pain to make moulds from with it's frosted surface texture. Really reduces mouldlife when casting. You will want to give them a solid coat of primer before mouldmaking to help with this.
Or next time send them this way and will do some higher resolution prints for you, free if you send a few casts :D like we did with Legio Destructor's guns :)
Now this is where my inexperience with 3D printing will show, I did not make these guns, I used shapeways to find an artist who had done all the work already in 28mm and then sweet talked him into up scaling them in 54mm. Discussions are ongoing about how he wants to manage (he is doing some re-sizing so they scale even better!) these but I never expected to get the 3D models as I didn't pay him on commission to make them. I have a few future 54mm things that are on commission that I will own though.
Quote from: Thantos on June 22, 2017, 09:51:25 AMOr next time send them this way and will do some higher resolution prints for you, free if you send a few casts :D like we did with Legio Destructor's guns :)
It occurs to me that I actually have a heap of weapon meshes ripped from the various WH40K computer games. While they'd need some refinement for printing (computer game models rely more on texturing and shading than actual mesh detail), I should consider taking a look at those.
Yep, you probably should :)
I like that the 54mm arsenal is increasing all of a sudden
Ditto.
I have a love of plasma, and a sudden and fortuitous looking potential source thereof.
;D
Hey, so I've fallen in love.
What do we need to go about doing to get hold of some of these? I'd be looking to pick up two or three sets at least, maybe putting money down for any future 54mm stuff you do. I have access to a couple of 3d printers (and the requisite nerds to operate them) if that helps?
The 54mm weapons set that I posted is available direct from the designer on shapeways here: https://www.shapeways.com/product/2E2LD2S2B/54mm-dark-future-weapons (https://www.shapeways.com/product/2E2LD2S2B/54mm-dark-future-weapons)
DO NOT pay for postage as there is always a offer code to get free postage! Currently SHOPSHIPJUNE17 will give you free postage and this code pretty much stays the same for every month of the year!
I will obv keep you all posted and updated about other items as they are finished and available!
Fab, thanks! I'm putting in order today, I look forward to seeing how they scale up on some of my projects :)
Do you have plans to do more?
Quote from: RobSkib on June 26, 2017, 11:15:50 AM
Fab, thanks! I'm putting in order today, I look forward to seeing how they scale up on some of my projects :)
Do you have plans to do more?
Yep, more are coming! There should be a scout style shotgun (same as the metal one but just more easily available), Armageddon style autogun and hotshot lasgun (stormtrooper style) coming next then a few more bit further down the line
Soooooo..... this has happened:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-54mm-scale-weapons-pack-16-pieces-inquisitor-/122572288688?hash=item1c89e0b2b0:g:NxcAAOSw9~5ZVUM3
AWESOME! I'll have to grab some of those. Maybe a couple of sets :D
You/he has done a Boltgun/Boltpistol/Laspistol set before. Any plans to re-do that?
two sets coming my way!
Quote from: gpemby on June 29, 2017, 10:08:18 PM
Soooooo..... this has happened:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Custom-54mm-scale-weapons-pack-16-pieces-inquisitor-/122572288688?hash=item1c89e0b2b0:g:NxcAAOSw9~5ZVUM3
yes, the caster has listed them on ebay while I was abroad.
If you need ebay security, you can buy them there, or drop me a message and we can do a better deal outside ebay.
(http://i.imgur.com/PNh9VIZ.gif)
Hey there rainy day fund, looks like it's raining particularly heavily today.
My Shapeways order arrived! Thanks to gpemby for the heads up and pointing me in the right direction :)
I must admit, when I first saw them laid out on the mat I was a little skeptical - many of them looked too big to work, even at 'heroic' scale. The pump shotty in particular looked almost 20% bigger than the vanilla Inquisitor pump shotty, and I thought it might look goofy in 54mm hands.
I did some dry runs with bluetack and I think the results speak for themselves. I am overall very pleased with the entire kit! I'm looking forward to dry-fitting some test models with some of these pieces (I never had an inclination to make a graviton gun-armed model until now...). Some of them are a little chunky for my tastes, the semi-auto scoped rifle and pump shotty for example, but it just means they have to be held by chunky hands rather than dainty 'true-scale' hands.
All in all, superb. I'm looking forward to seeing a pistol pack in the future ;)
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Got my weapon packs from the ebay auction in the post today, they look amazing! perfect casts with almost no flash, just need to figure out how I'm going to use them
I may grab a pack so I can upgrade some 54mm halo spartans I got after seeing some security troopers...
The two I've got are currently wielding a storm bolter as a bolt pistol, and a heavy bolter as an overlarge boltgun.
It seems like the perfect excuse to give one a double barrelled shotgun, and the other a plasmagun from this set.
We'll see...
My parts arrived too! I've knocked up some scale photos of all the bits in case anyone was on the fence. Not pictured but included in the pack are a belt and box feeds for the heavy bolter, a large and small scope that fits on most of the guns, and a long suppressor that fits the semi-auto pistol very snugly.
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-14-semi-auto-pistol.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-13-hand-flamer.jpg)
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-12-plasma-gun.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-11-heavy-bolter.jpg)
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-10-big-plasma-pistol.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-9-bolter.jpg)
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-8-bolt-pistol.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-7-high-cal-pistol.jpg)
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-6-grenade-launcher.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-5-big-plasma-pistol.jpg)
(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-4-flamer.jpg)(http://www.dreadquill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ebay-gun-scales-3-laspistol.jpg)
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Those are all under the category of "do want"!
E: For the halo troopers I'd mostly want the bolter, plasmagun, and bolt pistol I think.
Not sure what I'd use the rest for.
I found a set of 54mm metal gear solid V Ground Zeroes models though, but I can't really judge what will work until they turn up...
Thanks for the pix RobSkib!!!
Some would need some size tweaking for sure. As a first try they are OK. I am still learning the modelling thing. Was unsure of correct sizes.
I will dig out my space marine to see how these fit them.
Quote from: Legio Destructor on July 14, 2017, 08:10:26 AM
Thanks for the pix RobSkib!!!
Glad someone found them useful!
Quote from: Legio Destructor on July 14, 2017, 08:10:26 AM
I will dig out my space marine to see how these fit them.
I have a Space Marine kicking about somewhere too, I could get some scale shots with that if it would be helpful?
Also, I messaged the seller through eBay, but I figured I should probably say it here as well. Have you considered doing a similar but smaller weapon pack, such as with pistols and light rifles? The only thing preventing me from buying two packs at the moment is I'm not sure I'll get much use out of the special/heavy weapons in the pack, let alone two copies of them! It's no fault of your own, but I now have four 54mm scale heavy bolters ;)
I'd be very interested in a pistol/rifle/shotgun pack however, and could easily see myself buying multiple lots of those.
Robskib- if you don't want the heavy bolter and flamer from the last set of pics then I will happily take them off your hands, pm me a price? I have a need for those two guns but not the rest of the set (yet)
(http://i.imgur.com/CJEegYb.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/ozV4sB4.jpg?1)
First look at Lasgun pack I am working on!
Absolutely delicious. Can I cheekily inquire if we'll get to see some other variants of laspistol? There's a host in Marco's expanded armoury, and some really nice designs in the Inquisitor's Handbook from the Dark Heresy 40k RPG line, such as a high-caliber desert eagle-style laspistol, or a long and elegant duelling laspistol?
Quote from: RobSkib on July 19, 2017, 12:44:06 PM
Absolutely delicious. Can I cheekily inquire if we'll get to see some other variants of laspistol? There's a host in Marco's expanded armoury, and some really nice designs in the Inquisitor's Handbook from the Dark Heresy 40k RPG line, such as a high-caliber desert eagle-style laspistol, or a long and elegant duelling laspistol?
100,000 % Yes! These are literally being designed to be the core 'scale' tests to get the sizes right and from these there are planned variant's that will better suit the inquisitor world!
Such as this WIP 'special forces' laspistol. More compact with built in laser sight or torch.
(http://i.imgur.com/Hs13RFs.jpg)
I have 2 laspistol variants that I will be mocking up next to go along side this one.
These models are also deliberately modular so I can add extended mags, or drum power cells or a back pack power connectors with reasonable ease. Also if there is demand for sets of spare power packs to be made then I can do that as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/fc0ODsr.jpg?1)
By all means put in requests, give me page numbers or source links and I will have a look at adding them to my road map. I'd rather put the effort into building things people want along side what I want. This is open to everyone/anyone for any guns.
I'd really like a paired set of scaled down bolt pistol type weapons. :D Maybe Bolt pistol looking but maybe stubbers?
The updates are looking great man. Keep up the good work!!