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Title: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 18, 2017, 10:43:44 PM
We are now scheduled for this, although the original post below remains relevant, as that means we now have a heap of decisions to make and planning to do!

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Original post:

I've been contacted (via The Conclave's Facebook page) by the organiser of the London Grand Tournament (https://www.lgtpresents.co.uk/),  who asked if the community would be interested in running Inquisitor as one of the GT's side events.

Now, the London GT is a pretty big deal - one of the biggest UK gaming events, with hundreds of players split across several sub-events (the main 40k singles event is apparently the biggest in Europe, and this year sold out in 11 days), and even some healthy support from GW themselves (this year it was live-streamed by the Warhammer TV team).
They're offering us a lot of support in whatever we want to put on, and there's a lot of flexibility in the format we choose - an event can be competitive or narrative; half-day, one-day or two-day; we'd have the freedom to go 28mm, 54mm or both; etc. (Ticket pricing would be discussed with the main event organisers).

The only real fixed details are the date (19th and/or 20th May 2018) and the venue (Westminster Academy Sport, Torquay St, London, W2 5EW - close to Paddington station, or Royal Oak tube). Pricing would be discussed with the main event organisers.

As such, I think this is an offer we should take fairly seriously. It's a very high profile event to be invited to, which could be a boost for the Inquisitor event scene.

I'm prepared to offer to run it myself (I live relatively close to London, so it's easy for me to get there), but I'm also content to split the job with people or to hand things over to others if people would prefer. (I know some people can find me a bit brash, and I'd really rather not let that ruin such an excellent opportunity).

At this stage, what we need to know is who's interested and what they'd like out of such an event. (The sooner the better!)
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: mcjomar on October 18, 2017, 10:55:51 PM
Okay, first off WOW :o

Second off, I consider myself extremely inexperienced as a GM, so at best I could come along to show solidarity/bring models/character sheets/etc, but I'd obviously want to be there.
Given the advance notice I'm extremely hopeful that I can get that weekend booked for this (I can think of no birthdays in that month on those dates, the nearest one would be the following weekend).

Are we going to consider this as our IGT event in conjunction, or a showcase/story event weekend?
If the former, I do have a scenario that I could run - but I would be winging it, even with that much preparation time.
And I need to work up the enthusiasm to paint the other 6/10 tokens for it. And do some base modifications.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: greenstuff_gav on October 18, 2017, 11:06:52 PM
i've got a slew of scenarios; will check with the missus as i can run demos easily enough
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: Lord Borak on October 18, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
I'm happy to come. I need an excuse to get away to be honest. I haven't had a chance to do any hobby for some time  :-\ A day away should offer some naughty distraction!!!  ;D


You know I have NPCs aplenty and scenery too if required.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 18, 2017, 11:51:07 PM
Are we going to consider this as our IGT event in conjunction, or a showcase/story event weekend?
Well, that's one of the things we'd need to discuss.

My first thought would be to have Saturday and Sunday as separate but related stories; That way there'd be something of a continuous story for people who could do a full weekend, but people who could only make it to one day or the other wouldn't feel completely left out.
An IGT format event wouldn't be so suited to being split like that, so we'd probably have to limit it to one day. (The other thing is that I tend to find that people unfamiliar with the IGT format often tend to get the wrong end of the stick about it being overly competitive).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: mcjomar on October 19, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
Yeah good point.
I guess a story event would be more appropriate then.
Which begs the question, is the Carthax sector going to be brought up to date with the new timeline (200 years after 999 m.41 apparently, or so I keep reading)?
Or will it be set elsewhere/when?
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: Cortez on October 19, 2017, 09:35:36 AM
We should definitely take them up on this.

I think a campaign/story event would be best for this, rather than a random IGT style event. It could be two completely different events (one for each day) or you could have a link between the two days, which I think would be better (even though I'll probably only be able to attend on the Saturday and maybe sunday afternoon). However each day should still have it's own conclusion (so that people who can only attend one day get a proper ending).

I also think we should try and do an extra special job for this one, putting a lot of effort into designing the setting, maybe even creating some scenery for the event. That might be asking too much though.

Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 19, 2017, 05:42:29 PM
Which begs the question, is the Carthax sector going to be brought up to date with the new timeline (200 years after 999 m.41 apparently, or so I keep reading)?
I'm assuming that we're keeping Carthax standard time (I certainly have no plans to age all my characters by a century or two), so the date is still 017.M42...

... or so it appears. The dating system in the Imperium has always been very inconsistent, and the new fluff has played heavily on that.

Guilliman has been trying to catch up on ten thousand years of history (and has formed the Logos Historica Verita to for the thankless task of trying to make a vaguely coherent and uncensored version for him to read), but has run afoul of the Imperium's utterly disastrous dating system.
(To the point that GW have introduced a conflict within the Ordos Chronos about what the actual date is).
Even just considering the main five dating systems, the current year is supposed to be anywhere between the early 41st millennium and somewhere in the 42nd (and that's discounting uncountable lesser interpretations).

Throw in the vagaries of warp travel and astropathic communication, and it could be that centuries have suddenly passed outside the Carthax sector. It's long been established that warp travel around the Carthax sector is somewhat more unusual than usual, with several "creases" in the Immaterium that mean there are some short-cuts a huge way across the galaxy.

I also think we should try and do an extra special job for this one, putting a lot of effort into designing the setting, maybe even creating some scenery for the event. That might be asking too much though.
I don't want to jinx it, but a big event like this that's several months off would actually be a perfect kick in the arse to get Leander sorted.

We have seven months as of today, so we've certainly got the time to go a bit madder than usual; we're also being offered quite a lot of support from the GT team themselves, although our budget for sorting out special scenery and the like will obviously affect the necessary price for event tickets.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: TheNephew on October 19, 2017, 08:51:19 PM
Wow.
Heck yes that would be a good idea.

It would be absolutely amazing to be the table(s) with an actual TITAN, rather than these piddly wee Knights, as far as grabbing spectators from passing traffic goes, and of course the grand finale scenarios get far more high-stakes with a titan plasma blast gun in the mix.

I can't commit right now to being particularly useful as far as creating terrain or NPCs and the like goes, but I'm pretty sure I'll be available for at least one of the days to play and talk to folks.

The LGT page itself seems pretty detail-light - is it mostly just a sports hall with a hundred games tables and hardcore gaming all day?

Is there sideshow stuff?
Vendors?
Tean and coffee acquiring facilities?

I'm happy to take these questions direct to the organisers as an interested ][ player, if it will increase the impression of how worthwile giving Inquisitor a few tables will be.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 19, 2017, 10:50:33 PM
The LGT page itself seems pretty detail-light
I think that's partly because it's expanding very fast as an event; despite its massive success, it's a fairly new event (I think it's only been in 2016 and 2017 so far), and it seems it's becoming quite a lot broader in scope each time; I don't think even the organisers know quite what will be happening next time.

I believe they're almost looking to become something of a gaming convention; aside from the things already listed on their site (including a narrative 40k event, so it's not all hardcore gaming), they're obviously talking to us, and I've heard they're also trying to line up Warmaster and Epic, with an expectation of about 700 total players for 2018.

However, if you'd like to ask about sideshows, vendors and food, they're good questions and I'd kind of like to know the answers as well.

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It would be absolutely amazing to be the table(s) with an actual TITAN, rather than these piddly wee Knights, as far as grabbing spectators from passing traffic goes
It's naturally the kind of thing Leander would be perfect for, but I won't make any promises just yet. (I have made some advances since I last updated her thread, but I know I've said I'd get her ready several times before).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: Van Helser on October 21, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
Oh wow, this does sound big.  I had a message from a guy through the Carthaxian Inquisitor Facebook page at the start of the week asking if I was the chap that ran the WHW and Dark Sphere days (which I haven't), and bounced him in your direction Marco.  Hadn't a clue it was for anything like this!

It's a fantastic opportunity to show off Inquisitor to a large room full of circulating people, as well as an opportunity to have a campaign day.  I'd like to say I could make it, and would probably make it a two day trip to make the most of the opportunity.  I can take sleeper trains or fly to London from Inverness so travel there is a lot more direct than it ever is to Nottingham.  However, May time is when I expect I'll be very busy with MSc stuff, so it's a maybe from me for now.

Ruaridh
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: Heroka Vendile on October 21, 2017, 08:47:06 PM
As I'm still one of the Facebook page admins, I've glanced over the conversation with the organiser over past few days and it's certainly a very interesting offer. (Best if you continue as single point of contact Dave! Avoids any confusion.)
I think even just a baseline of what the ticket pricing could range between would be very useful at this point.

If the event as a whole is tournament-heavy without any general foot traffic then having a demo table isn't really a good use of resources. However if they are angling more for the convention format then a demo table makes more sense.

As for whether we would run a campaign day or an IGT, I wouldn't mind either. Of course if we're there for 2 days we could run both on different days.

I would like to get to an event again it's been far too long, and like Ruaridh, travel to London is a lot simpler than travel to Nottingham when you're coming from Scotland.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 21, 2017, 10:34:16 PM
I think even just a baseline of what the ticket pricing could range between would be very useful at this point.
There's a 10 entry ticket to the overall LGT, and the suggested prices are that 1 day events are 20 and 2-day events 40.
(They also mentioned half day, but I can't see that being a good idea when people are dragging themselves hundreds of miles).

However, the final price is discussed with the organisers, and I'm guessing those prices expect that the running costs include a hefty prize pool (for which I can't think of a lot of good ideas).

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If the event as a whole is tournament-heavy without any general foot traffic then having a demo table isn't really a good use of resources. However if they are angling more for the convention format then a demo table makes more sense.
I'll have to ask about the format.

However, my thinking at the moment is that our numbers for the last few years are often very thin even without people sitting out to run demo tables - an assistant GM would probably be more useful.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: TheNephew on October 21, 2017, 11:47:48 PM
If it's 50 to get in and play, I almost certainly can't do both days, which is unfortunate.

I'll shoot the exec an email to ask about their plans for what will be there - it'll show interest from the community, at the very least.

Unrelated note, and at the risk of initiating a squabble - seems like this might be the sort of event that would benefit from both 54mm and 28mm tables.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 22, 2017, 01:17:51 AM
If it's 50 to get in and play, I almost certainly can't do both days, which is unfortunate.
I've not had any kind of discussion with the organisers about this yet, but knowing how small the community is, I know we can't afford to see people put off by the ticket price.

Some budget could make the event really shiny (e.g. mission briefings handed out in wax sealed parchment envelopes, custom terrain, etc), but I can't imagine we need a massive prize pool, and I'd feel somewhat odd trying to run the event for profit.

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Unrelated note, and at the risk of initiating a squabble - seems like this might be the sort of event that would benefit from both 54mm and 28mm tables.
If possible, I'd love to. Nice 54mm projects are great at catching attention, but nice 28mm conversions are much better at convincing people.

I've tried approaching both the Ammobunker and the largest INQ28 Facebook group, although so far I've only had two "sounds cool, but I won't be able to make it myself" answers. I may try hitting up specific people to see if they can help the idea get any traction.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: Aethelred on October 22, 2017, 04:14:25 PM
Re. the May event in London - yes, absolutely! I'd be happy to help; just let me know what you need. I have 54mm miniatures, but could put together some 28mm in advance of the event too if need be.
I'm not an experienced GM, but would be happy to help with admin, set-up, terrain... I'd love to be involved in getting an Inquisitor game/tournament set up :)
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 24, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
Right...

I have today told them that we should have enough 54mm players; Eight people (not including myself) have expressed interest here, there's a few more regulars and semi-regulars I've yet to hear from, and I'm hoping that I'll be able to beg Gav Thorpe to share the event around to see if we can get a few more people out of the woodwork.

Numbers for 28mm are also perking up a bit, so it's even looking possible that we might be able to run a large dual-scale extravaganza.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: greenstuff_gav on October 24, 2017, 08:24:12 PM
i'm confused though; is it a traditional event (demos games day) or is it a narrative event (like a normal conclave) or a tournament (like the GT)?
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London Grand Tournament? (19th-20th May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 24, 2017, 10:52:12 PM
The London GT is probably best described as an "event convention" - but despite the GT name, we're free to run whatever kind of event we want within that.

At the moment, the feedback has been most in favour of a normal narrative Conclave (although hopefully somewhat grander in scale) - this seems sensible to me, as these tend to be more familiar and less intimidating to newcomers than the GT format.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Lord Borak on October 26, 2017, 11:32:35 AM
I know I'm a bit quieter on here but I'm still up for this. Still happy to bring down Scenery and NPCs. If we do get a scenario planned let me know if we need anything done for it (models, scenery etc) and I'll chip in to get something done for it.

Work is currently mental so it's eating all of my time up currently.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 26, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
Sounds good.

I don't know what we'll need just yet though - I'm currently throwing around plot ideas, but exactly what will be the best plan will depend on whether we have the interest to sustain events on both Saturday and Sunday, or only Saturday.

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So... for any possible attendees:

1) Is anyone objecting to the idea of a "normal" narrative Conclave, or does anyone really want to push for another format?
2) Who at this stage thinks they could plausibly do the Sunday?
3) Does anyone have any particular suggestions they would like to make or plans they would like to share?
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: TheNephew on October 27, 2017, 12:11:23 AM
I don't think there's a pressing need for another format.

Sunday is not an impossibility for me, but only if it's a fair bit cheaper than 50, and if I've managed to free up that weekend.
It depends on a whole host of factors that are still up in the air  though.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to have a scenario or two that would be easy for passers by to drop into - even if it's something as minimal as the patrolling NPC sentries.
That's likely to be a bit fiddly though, I know.
Easy alternative is that folks that get killed off, or don't feel like playing a scenario, or are having lunch, can do those things on a spare half-table.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: mcjomar on October 27, 2017, 08:14:07 AM
I'm radically interested, although I'll need more pricing details before I can fully commit.
I'm glad it's in may and not june, or it would be havoc for me to attend.
Let alone July - that entire month, and august as well is just right out for me.
But given reasonable pricing (or time to save) I would want to be around for both days in either scale.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 29, 2017, 12:03:32 AM
At the moment, I've not heard back conclusively from enough people to be confident we'll have good numbers for Sunday - between the extra costs of event tickets and overnight stays near London, it's sounding like a lot of people might be stretching their budgets a bit too far.

As a two day event would obviously increase the planning load somewhat, my current suggestion is that we stick to a Saturday-only event. Should we find ourselves with excess time to work on things, we can put that effort into making the one day an absolutely sterling event, and can then make another decision about a full weekend if we should be invited back next year.

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As far as an event plot, and as it looks like I may be the one taking this on, I'm going to suggest my long-postponed "Legacy" narrative (a sequel to "The Saint" back in 2011, although it's absolutely not necessary to have attended that):

In M42.011, Corporal Aderyn Aeslin died twice. Or, at least, that's what the official reports say.

What is known is that following her heroic (first) death and subsequent resurrection during the Ilithyian War (ref: "Ilithyia" - common name for Cerestne XVII, Cuir sub-sector, Carthax sector, Segmentum Pacificus), Aderyn was hailed as a heroine, a living embodiment of the Emperor's will and a game-changer in the decades-long conflict - a figurehead capable of driving Chaos from the world and back to the fallen Alykia sector (ref: lost to forces of Warlord Imylosst in 914-937.M41 war).
Perhaps even with time, she would become the leader of a counter-crusade that would reclaim those rightful demesnes of the Emperor.

These hopes were seemingly dashed when, once the Inquisition had chosen their champion (ref: Inquisitor Josephine Cortez) to assess Corporal Aeslin's purity, the site for the High Assembly was fired upon by a hijacked orbital defence platform. Officially, the Corporal was once again killed in action; unofficially, her body was never found.

News of the Corporal's second death lead to mass civil unrest across almost the entirety of the Cuir sub-sector, at grand costs both mortal and financial. The hero of this aftermath was undoubtedly the sub-sector's new Cardinal, Tobas Kiedrow (ref: took position in 009.M42, following disappearance of Cardinal Malatesta), whose inspiring sermons and posthumous canonisation of Aderyn rallied much the population into a wave of religious fervour.

Some years on, this has come full circle. His reputation built on the foundation of the saint, his continued aspirations have led attention to fall on the Ilithyian War once again. The voice of the masses now calls for the Imperium to fully reclaim the world in Aderyn's name.

Buoyed by this wave of zeal, the Imperium once again has possibilities that the living saint offered: a hope of fully bolstering Ilithyia and driving the taint from the sub-sector. A decisive victory here could free up many of the Cuir sub-sector's resources, both military and civilian.
Detractors say that it won't end there - the citizen's fervour would only grow with the end of the generations-old conflict, and where would that lead? A crusade into the Alykia sector would stretch the Carthax sector to its limits, but without such a common cause, the religious frenzy could lead to the civil war that was so narrowly averted before.

And so it is that the Inquisition once again look to Ilithyia. Some of them trying to end a war. Some of them trying to prevent one.


Because this has been sitting around for a while, it's already a fairly well developed narrative with a lot of possible hooks to explore, which translates into a big head start on getting this event put together.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: TheNephew on October 29, 2017, 02:08:32 PM
Added detail from the organisers:

"Hi [REDACTED],

Thanks for your email.

There's lots going on aside from the big GTs. There will be intro games on offer from some of the other specialist games (Epic, Warmaster etc.) as well as some fun side events. Details of the full programme will be published on Wednesday and I would encourage you to go through the updated website then to see the breadth of stuff on offer. We've also got seminars on offer from Golden Daemon / Slayer Sword winning painters if that sort of thing is your cup of tea.

Kind regards,
Zach Becker
Convention Organiser"

Looks like there're demo tables as the norm, and a whole bunch fo other stuff too.

Depending on what's on and when, I might try and wrangle the extra day so I have some time to circulate.
If that works out, I'll be up for doing a two-day event if it leaves several hours to explore.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 29, 2017, 02:37:34 PM
Huh. Maybe a way to handle it then would be to have a big narrative event on Saturday and something a bit more open-ended on the Sunday.

As already suggested, that could be something following the IGT format - although perhaps not actually called an IGT, because I feel that the IGT proper should be kept at Nottingham, not to mention that the GT naming tends to be something you have to keep explaining: "No, it's not all about people turning up with Space Marines and killing each other".

If it were perhaps called an "open event" instead, the general casualness of the format might come across better.
(And people who are rusty might be little less intimidated about the idea of GMing a scenario on Sunday if they know they'll already have had the Saturday to remind themselves of the rules).

Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 30, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
In the absence of any objections, I'm going to assume we're going with the "Legacy" narrative on Saturday and an "open event"* on the Sunday, as it means we can do both days without quite as much effort as two entire narrative events. (Also, I already have a lot of the paperwork ready for such events, so we should be able to get things out sooner).

* Read: "IGT", but I want to avoid calling that - firstly, to avoid any arguments or confusion about whether the GT is moving from Nottingham and, secondly, because I know a lot of people get the wrong end of the stick regarding calling anything an Inquisitor "tournament".

If anyone does have any objections, please interject sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Van Helser on October 31, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
I like this format.  Having an open day on the Sunday allows for introducing the game to anybody that shows interest.  As I said earlier, if I can come down then I would be around on the Sunday, as getting back up to Inverness on the Saturday would be tight for time, and exhausting to boot.

As the Legacy event is a follow up to The Saint it makes sense that I dust off this mysterious chap (http://carthax.wikia.com/wiki/Alias_Strang) and let him pick up where he left off...

Ruaridh
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on October 31, 2017, 12:30:13 PM
Three bits of news:

1) We're now officially in the latest LondonGT newsletter: http://mailchi.mp/a9cdd06e83dd/london-grand-tournament-1118913

2) If you've ignored the above link - the address has been changed. Given its expanding size, the London GT will now be held at the Olympic Stadium (London E20 2ST), near Stratford.

3) The organisers have told me that their gaming times are as follows, and I now need to fit a schedule to them:

Friday: 13:00 - 22:00
Saturday: 10:00 - 22:00
Sunday: 09:30 - 16:30 (Awards from 17:00)

I'm assuming most people who will only be able to make the Saturday won't be able to push anything like as late as ten at night, but we do need to know how late we can reasonably push on for.
(e.g. If people are relying on trains, when would their last train on Saturday be - by roughly increasing distance, the local stations are Pudding Mill Lane, Hackney Wick, Stratford International and Stratford)

For those who can stay later, I'm sure we'll be able to arrange some more casual gaming, or people can wander the overall event as they wish.

(I'm not planning any gaming for the Friday, but it's likely I would appear to make arrangements, so it's not impossible some light gaming could happen then, too).

As the Legacy event is a follow up to The Saint it makes sense that I dust off this mysterious chap (http://carthax.wikia.com/wiki/Alias_Strang) and let him pick up where he left off...
What, in a cloud of hallucinogenic vapour? :P
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Cortez on October 31, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
I will probably stay at my Brothers for the event, so could potentially do both the Friday evening and all day Saturday, I'll probably do other things on the Sunday.

What's the situation with us getting tickets? Will we have some reserved or do we need to buy them from their webstore?

Also what is the parking/vehicular access like as we may need/want to bring scenery/vehicles (titans ;)) etc. that won't be easy to bring on the tube or rail network.

I'm fine with going with your Legacy event. What kind of models will you need for it? (bearing in mind I'm working on some Ecclesiarchy characters at the moment). We also need to discuss what scenery and other assets we'll need.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Genghis on November 01, 2017, 11:24:12 AM
I'm interested if there's a 28mm option.  (There's a possibility I'll be on a course with work then, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to get away for that weekend so I can't commit yet, but there's good odds I'll be available.)

I'm quite inexperienced at Inquisitor, having only played one campaign and sort of GMed another (very basically, and we were all beginners), so I'm not sure how much I'd be able to offer in supporting GM-type stuff.  Assuming I can make it, I could potentially help with NPCs if required.

Being quite new to all this, what sort of characters/warbands would we need to partake?  (And would stats/kit/backstory be all agreed here prior to the event itself?)

(Also, I'll put a link to this on the Lead Adventure Forum, which may attract some interest.)
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: greenstuff_gav on November 01, 2017, 01:44:59 PM
Someone posted in 40k that tickets were nearly sold out; we need to buy tickets for the venue then tickets for whatever we organise?
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: mcjomar on November 01, 2017, 02:23:19 PM
Damn, do I need to buy a ticket now?
Is there a specific ticket type I need to buy?

EDIT: Well I bought a CAP ticket for now (does that cover both saturday and sunday?), and I guess I'll worry about anything else once we have a decision here?
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Cortez on November 01, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
Ok, I've bought the Convention Access Pass.  Hope that's all we'll need for now.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 01, 2017, 04:23:26 PM
On the matter of tickets, yes, you will need both a CAP and a ticket for our event.

However as far as them selling out - emphasis mine, but otherwise verbatim from when I asked the lead organiser:

-Marco: "When will players have to make a commitment by? I see you've said in a few places that last year's convention sold out in 11 days - if that's the overall entry tickets to get in at all, that may be a problem for us, as I know a lot of our players can't make a concrete commitment this far in advance."

- Zach: "Commitment wise, the absolutley drop dead date is end of April. Though in reality we ask people to sign up as soon as possible so that we can plan terrain and tables etc. well in advance. A typical rule of thumb is, the earlier in the process we get people signed up, the better the event will be.

Last year we did indeed sell out in 11 days, this was mainly 40k led and I anticipate that we will repeat or better this again, for 40k. Your tables won't be competing with them and i'll ensure your guys can get tickets.  Though I encourage you to impress upon them the benefits of committing early i.e. November"

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(I'll respond to more in a moment, but I'm posting this part ASAP)
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 02, 2017, 02:44:42 AM
I'm interested if there's a 28mm option.  (There's a possibility I'll be on a course with work then, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to get away for that weekend so I can't commit yet, but there's good odds I'll be available.)
I'm trying to arrange it, but my 28mm collection simply isn't large enough to sustain a large event, not while maintaining the standard I want to be presenting, so I'm desperately trying to appeal to other people to assist.

That's also heavily because I don't want my personal biases to skew the entire event - as much as I love my "dissect metals and use lots of greenstuff" style of INQ28, I know it doesn't inspire people in the same way as the kitbashy Blanchitsu style, and so I'd really like to see that presented by people who can really show it off to its fullest rather than me trying to imitate it.

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I'm quite inexperienced at Inquisitor, having only played one campaign and sort of GMed another (very basically, and we were all beginners), so I'm not sure how much I'd be able to offer in supporting GM-type stuff.  Assuming I can make it, I could potentially help with NPCs if required.
That shouldn't be an issue. I'm expecting to write a lot of the scenarios as fairly GM-light, so that it can just be left to an experienced player to take charge of turn order and as many people can get stuck in as possible.

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Being quite new to all this, what sort of characters/warbands would we need to partake?  (And would stats/kit/backstory be all agreed here prior to the event itself?)
Your choice of characters and warbands will be very open.

The overall story is about whether a sub-sector will risk overextending in a religious crusade against Chaos or instead tearing itself apart in civil war.
Neither answer is clear-cut, and it's a story in which Puritans, Radicals, Rogue Traders, Techpriests, preachers, heretics, outright traitors, agents of the enemy, or even Xenos infiltrators might find themselves supporting either side.

There probably won't be a whole lot of room for Space Marine Dreadnoughts* or Ork Warbosses, but most sensible Inquisitor characters should be fine.

* Although if anyone did actually go to the trouble of modelling one for Inquisitor, it might be able to fit into the finale I've got in mind, particularly as that may have a Warhound Titan stomping around anyway.

As far as character sheets - I've yet to decide if I want to audit those in advance. I wouldn't normally, but we may be getting some players who aren't familiar with the idea of "Conclave Standard" statlines.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Genghis on November 03, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
Thank you for the answers.  As I said, unfortunately I can't commit at this time, but if I am free, and there is 28mm, I will do my best to be there.  I should be able to confirm by the end of Jan (once I'm settled into a new job), which hopefully isn't too late.

Assuming I can make it, whatever the official policy is, I'll throw my character sheets up for vetting.  I've read some of the Conclave posts on the subject, but would seek confirmation I'm on the right track.  That said...

...finale I've got in mind, particularly as that may have a Warhound Titan stomping around anyway.

With that in mind, do I need to start trading in shotguns and laspistols for meltaguns and chainfists?   ;)
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 04, 2017, 02:15:08 AM
With that in mind, do I need to start trading in shotguns and laspistols for meltaguns and chainfists?   ;)
I'm going to say "no". :P

She's my crazy 54mm scale display project, so I simply wouldn't have the option for her to appear on the 28mm tables anyway*, and half the point of putting her on a table at all would be to be an unstoppable force. Characters are supposed to think around her rather than take her head-on (given the Inquisitor damage stats for Titan weapons would really just be rolling dice to see how large an area a character's bloody remains are now spread over).

*Another reason I'd really like to rope in some serious 28mm talent, so as to arrange some similarly cool toys.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Van Helser on November 04, 2017, 02:15:00 PM
I have gone ahead and bought a CAP.  This way I'm less likely to miss out if they go off general sale before I know my movements and commitments next year.

If I do bring Alias Strang, then I am going to revisit that paint job.  The colours are all far too flat.  And perhaps should be psychedelic after his hallucinogen experimentation.

Ruaridh
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: Genghis on November 05, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
A 54mm Warhound!  I bet that'll be a sight to see.

Is anyone here active on the Oldhammer forum?  I'm not, but from what I understand of it, this might be the sort of thing some of them might be interested in, especially in the realms of "serious 28mm talent".
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 13, 2017, 04:48:29 PM
Embarrassingly delayed, I've sent off a draft briefing pack to the organisers, so we'll hopefully be able to get tickets for our event up for sale soon.
Title: Re: Event: London Grand Tournament (19-20 May 2018)
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 14, 2017, 06:22:53 PM
Speaking with the organisers, things should be ready to launch tomorrow.

The weekend will be ticketed as separate Saturday and Sunday events (although there's been no discussion yet about pricing), so people will be able to show up on just the days they can make it.

As discussed before, these days will be a narrative campaign and an "open event" (basically the IGT format, but hopefully with a name that needs less explaining that "no, it isn't just people turning up with Space Marines and killing each other", which I didn't think would be so great with other people doing a lot of the publicity).

Please bear in mind that places are not unlimited - at the moment, I've asked that the events are limited to 24 places on each day in order to keep the numbers manageable. While this would still be considerably larger than any Inquisitor event I've previously been to (the largest for me thus far was 16 players at the 2011 IGT),  it is possible that the places could disappear if sales are either very fast* or slow**, so early commitment is advised!

* I will be asking Gav Thorpe very kindly if he wouldn't mind sharing it around. Also, with six months advance warning and in a city with major international links, it's not unthinkable that this would be accessible to non-UK players (more so than our "no more than three months notice" Nottingham events, anyway).
** If we're struggling to sell tickets, I won't be able to keep arguing that we merit all that space. I've pointed out that we won't need a lot of tables to fit in 24 people, but even so...


Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 15, 2017, 03:29:03 PM
After some hiccups, we've sorted out the preliminary details of the format for the 2018 LondonGT Inquisitor Narrative event(s), and tickets are now on sale (54mm only for the moment):

https://www.lgtpresents.co.uk/inquisitor

The overall weekend will be split into two separate events. Participants are welcome to attend for either or both days:
- On Saturday 19th May 2018, "Legacy", a narrative campaign set in the build-up to a religious crusade.
Will you support a crusade that the sub-sector is not truly prepared for, or will you stand against it, risking the religious frenzy boiling over into civil war?

- On Sunday 20th May 2018, an open event where the participants get to run scenarios of their own design, inflicting the horrors of the Dark Millennium upon each other in turn.
(This is broadly the IGT format with a friendlier name).

Early commitment is recommended, as space across the overall London GT is at a premium and we may have our allocation restricted if demand for the 40K and AOS events remains high.

(Please note that tickets are sold separately for each day, and you will also need a Convention Access Pass for the overall London GT).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: Cortez on November 15, 2017, 05:00:49 PM
Well I've bought a ticket for the Saturday. 20 is rather steep though.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 15, 2017, 05:55:33 PM
They told me there would be discussion of ticket pricing, but that appears to have been abandoned as the convention has expanded to more and more events (with all the main events at exactly the same prices).

I would have liked to have knocked it down to 10-15 and I can try complaining if people want/need me to, but it's been a bit of a rush trying to fit this in around getting stuff ready for Saturday.

There is part of me that says it would mean a bit of budget to make sure all the tables look really pretty, get things like mission briefings and contact cards (which I'm strongly considering as a plot progression option) printed up properly or maybe even arrange a few cool extras (I'm planning to sculpt some NPCs for the event, and it's not at all out of the question that some of those could be cast up as event exclusive miniatures for participants)...

... but obviously, that's not preferable to people not turning up because of the cost.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: TheNephew on November 15, 2017, 08:19:12 PM
20 is a bit steep, but since it's the first time and all I can definitely do one day.

To be honest, it looks pretty expensive all round, from entry to event tickets, but perhaps I'm just inexperienced with non-trade show conventions.

Smashing event pack though, Marco.
An L][GT-exclusive mini would be amazing, but maybe that's stretching a bit.
Either way, once I work out which day I can do, I'll get a ticket.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 16, 2017, 03:57:41 AM
I sent around a newsletter about the LGT earlier, but I now discover that my attempts to change the forum to use one of my email addresses (so that replies to forum e-mails were going into my inbox, rather than Gav's, as I'm generally most active) seemed to have directed forum mail into my spam box.

Can people check their spam boxes please and tell me if the same fate has befallen them? If it's happened to more than a few people, I'll send it out again (this time under a newly set up forum-specific email address), as it's quite an important message!

An L][GT-exclusive mini would be amazing, but maybe that's stretching a bit.
Well, it seems within the bounds of possibility, although it's obviously up to people to decide whether that's the kind of thing they'd like. I thought it'd be an interesting gift for attendees (particularly given that model availability is one of the issues with Inquisitor these days).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: mcjomar on November 16, 2017, 08:39:58 AM
Well I've grabbed my saturday event ticket.
I'm still mulling over the sunday event ticket.
I'll possibly grab it, we'll see.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: Hadriel Caine on December 04, 2017, 06:41:28 PM
[clears throat]

Ahem.

Hello brothers, six long years have passed. And here we find ourselves.

London is it. May, you say, the 18th year... a mile from my current habitation and the week of my birth celebrations....

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I abandoned you (some will remember, others won't) all in 2011 as I moved to London, assuming I would have no time for the hobby. Well... turns out I'm a massively competitive gamer and podcast host these days for AoS and Bloodbowl. But goodness me do I miss good old days.

I actually am helping run the Blood Bowl event at LGT and know the events organisers. Its going to be awesome.

I've had my arm twisted to play AoS, Blood Bowl and Necromunda... but then I saw that something called 'The Conclave' would be running a little know game called Inquisitor. And my heart skipped several beats. Luckily my second heart didn't.

@salarath and @Makelor (old old users) and I are potentialy VERY keen to push our tickets in the =][= direction.

Questions:

1) What scale is predominant these days? I see Marco (hey Marco :) ) has been working very hard and has mentioned both 28mm and 54mm, have we reached a consensus? I do love 54mm, have talked about it at length on here in the past, but 28mm has a lot more scope these days in some ways. Not least of all in terms of terrain and creating more immersive worlds, especially as there seems to be budget/ ticket price concerns. For reference most AoS/ Bloodbowl events come in at 34-40 for the weekend including lunch so LGT is certainly on the dearer side of things.

2) Am I welcome back after years of transgression (and not even playing in the same universe)

3) What can I do to help organisationally and liasion-wise (my gaming club is a 5 minute walk from the Olympic Stadium and I've been starting to talk bout =][= a lot...)?

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, 6 years has made me unfamiliar with the interface!

EEK!

Adam

//EDIT= I'm going to get told off by mods immediately aren't I. Return to form... I've found the event pack on the website. Still keen to help/ talk about scale etc and help where I can. Perhaps a DM to Marco would've sufficed, but I'm excited to be back.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on December 04, 2017, 07:28:17 PM
1) What scale is predominant these days? I see Marco (hey Marco :) ) has been working very hard and has mentioned both 28mm and 54mm, have we reached a consensus?
54mm is definitely happening at the event. 28mm may also be happening, depending on whether I can find enough support from the community and what the event organisers say about ticket sales.

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For reference most AoS/ Bloodbowl events come in at 34-40 for the weekend including lunch so LGT is certainly on the dearer side of things.
Sorry about that - the organisers didn't discuss the ticket pricing with me (they said they would; they didn't) and it's now become a bit awkward to change.
I will try to do what I can to make the event worth that price. (This may include things like an event exclusive miniature).

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2) Am I welcome back after years of transgression (and not even playing in the same universe)
Certainly. I will absolutely forgive years of absence if it means we get to have a nice healthy turnout.

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3) What can I do to help organisationally and liasion-wise (my gaming club is a 5 minute walk from the Olympic Stadium and I've been starting to talk bout =][= a lot...)?
I don't know yet, but I will definitely bear it in mind.

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//EDIT= I'm going to get told off by mods immediately aren't I.
Probably not. I mostly handle that job these days, and everything seems fine in my book.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 12, 2018, 10:08:22 PM
I've had a message from the LGT organisers, who say few tickets have been sold so far - particularly so for Sunday, to the point we have only one sign up.

I intend on putting out an e-mail to try and remind people (I suspect that some people may have been waiting to budget tickets and it's slipped their mind), but before I do that, this clearly isn't a resounding endorsement of the plan, so is there anything in particular people think needs to be changed?

(I can bring up ticket pricing if people think that's the underlying issue, but that's obviously somewhat impractical now some tickets have already been sold).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: Cortez on January 13, 2018, 10:47:59 AM
I can't do the Sunday.

How many tickets have been sold for the Saturday?

Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 13, 2018, 04:17:16 PM
Three. That's obviously not great, but I'm also not worried, as I'm sure those numbers can be brought up enough - we have a proven success with Saturday events, and a lot of people told me they couldn't commit very early.

(This is all before I've made any decision about whether to invite the 28mm community of course; part of the reason I was waiting was because I needed to see 54mm sales first).
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: TheNephew on January 13, 2018, 06:59:27 PM
I haven't bought my ticket yet, but I will - dates are cleared with SWMBO, I just need to pick a day.

As I said (or intended to) earlier in the thread, I was going to sign up for whichever day was in need of more players.
To be honest, if there's only two or three people Sunday, I think I'd rather do Saturday though. More people to utilise tables, and easier travel.
It's probably no great comfort to you or the LGT people to merely say so, but I'll definitely be buying one one-day ticket.

The primary reason for the delay, as raised previously, is cost.
I'm not used to dropping 30 to play - that's pretty much triple the cost of any game ticket I've had to buy. Admittedly I'm not a huge tournament goer, but still, had the tickets (or total buy, rather) been 20 or less I'd have probably just picked one by now.
At 50, there's just no way I'm doing both days.
If LGT told you that there would be negotiation, or at least some for of discussion, about pricing, then I think it might be worth pointing out that this is unexpectedly expensive and probably flattening a bit of the hype about it.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 13, 2018, 10:47:35 PM
To be honest, if there's only two or three people Sunday, I think I'd rather do Saturday though.
At this stage, my vote is if people are only going to do one day, do Saturday. One event with healthy numbers and one tiny event will be much easier for me to deal with than two middling events.

(Smaller events will be easier to rethink if it turns out that the numbers aren't good enough - if it gets close to the event and Sunday is going to work out as only about three people, then I'll lock that down, talk with those three people and I'll work out something special for them).

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If LGT told you that there would be negotiation, or at least some for of discussion, about pricing
I won't quote the exact passage, because it was sent as a private communication, but it was definitely said that there would be some form of discussion.
It may have been forgotten when things went past the launch deadline (I won't completely shirk the blame for that, but I could have done with more than 13 days to get a plan for a large Inquisitor event together) and everything thus got a bit rushed, but it was said.

I don't know what we can do this year, but if we return next year I'll definitely argue for a more modest price.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: Genghis on January 15, 2018, 04:48:46 PM
Whilst it is a bit pricey, that's not a show-stopper for me.  It probably doesn't help much at this point, but I'll be in for both days, contingent upon there being 28mm options.
Title: Re: Inquisitor at the London GT (19-20 May 2018) - Tickets now on sale
Post by: Van Helser on January 16, 2018, 11:50:43 AM
An irregular login for me, but I am the lonely soul signed up for Sunday.  I've got a Saturday ticket too.  I was surprised that it was 20 per day, but I guess we have been lucky to have had all our events where there was no booking fee, nor organisation, advertising etc. etc. by a third party. 

I suspect more people will sign up in time...  Organising 4 months in advance isn't always easy.

Ruaridh