Not sure whether I'll remember to update this as I go along, but here goes...
Some time ago I made a 4'x4' board to play a few games against Necris - as I'd already built the Valkyrie, I decided to mark the board out with a landing pad.
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At the time we played using Necromunda terrain, but I always planned to eventually build some proper terrain. The first piece I bought was the old STC Colonial Habitat. I eventually got around to painting this a couple of weeks ago (and was reminded just how dull painting terrain is!).
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Last week, with my game against Brother Brimstone rapidly approaching I decided I really ought to build a few more bits of terrain after seeing just how much stuff he'd managed to build and paint. I had a couple of tubes from bottles of whisky which I'd been saving to use as terrain, so chopped them up and over about six hours I built and painted these two storage tanks.
Tank 1
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Tank 2 (or should I say 7!)
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In amongst this lot, I built a few small bits - a lascannon emplacement, platform to access the cockpit of the Valkyrie, comms beacon, cogitator terminal and barricade - mostly 28mm stuff which I though worked well at 54mm as well as some Robogear platforms.
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My next project are two warehouses designed to fit in the rectangles at the top left and right of the board. I've just finished the basic structure of the first;
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As you can see, I need some ladders or stairs to allow characters to access the upper levels. The next step is to start adding details and to make the main sliding doors - the doors will be 2mm plasticard, and I've got some barrels, fuel cans, sandbags and some cities of death bits and pieces (as well as a bits box full of crap) to detail it.
After the two warehouses, I plan to build a watch house / bunker from a Bastion kit, a couple of intact building and then round it out with some cities of death ruins (which I may sub-contract out to save time). AFter that, I need some scatter terrain - crates, more barrels, fences, walls, pipes and so on.
That's it for now...
- Dave
Looks very Awesome.
I like the Platform to get upto the valkerie cockpit. It looks like it's risen from the floor on hydraulics. Have you considered making a tile so you can depict where it would rise from? Then you could swap it out in game when the hydraulics are activated.
Quote from: Adlan on May 22, 2010, 12:15:38 PM
Looks very Awesome.
yeah, that :D
thanks for showing! love seeing terrain come together :D
have you considered gluing together a few crates and hollowing 'em out so that they can sit over the top of the hinges? they really detract from a Nifty board :-[
i'd have recessed it into the board and added a Gutter Guard (http://www.tritongutters.com/images/gutter-guard-installation.jpg) as its running straight along the board...
Great work on the building! It puts my terrain to shame! Looks like it's all coming together well; looking forward to playing on it.
On the subject of crates - does anyone know of a source of various sizes of crates, pallettes, cargo containers etc? They're easy enough to make, but I need quite a few for the second warehouse...
for 54mm, i've got A Couple Of These (http://reallyusefulproducts.co.uk/uk/html/onlineshop/rub/b00_07litre.php) and they work well and come in a variety of sizes :D
some of Jeds Stuff (http://www.antenocitisworkshop.com/gbu0-catshow/gotscenery.html) could work, but its mainly 32mm...
toy shops maybe worth a look?
Looking nice so far.
You could try some Britain's farm accessories (http://www.britainsfarmtoys.com/farmyard-scenery-accessories/scenery.html) out - they do palettes, and with a bit of paint, their bales could be barrels or containers easily enough.
Looking forward to some pics of the Bastion, I've got three sitting around that I'd love to re purpose for 54mm.
Very cool. It is always good to see proper terrain rather than cardboard boxes and things.
Ooh I didn't know Britain's was 1/32 - I used to have loads of that stuff when I was a kid...
Just sprayed the outside of the building with Plastikote Stone Touch - I'll post pics once it's dry. I've done much of the detailing - I don't plan to do too much to this one as it's very shallow so there's little room for much inside. I've also drawn up plans for the second warehouse - I've learned a lot from doing the first one, so the second promises to be a lot better (it helps that it'll be a lot bigger too). Now to see what I can fnd on eBay...
Okay, here's the first proper update. As you can see I've added a load of barrels and other bits and pieces to the interior - I originally was going to add more stuff, but decided to keep it pretty sparse so as to leave as much floor space for gaming as possible. Any larger crates will be left movable, so there'll be the potential to put more stuff in there during games anyway.
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I've also added some detail to the outside, and then I sprayed it with the Plasticote stuff. I'm not sure about that stuff yet - the texture is a little weird and it's still a little tacky despite being applied over 12 hours ago. Hopefully it'll harden up, otherwise I'm in trouble...
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The sliding doors are still next on the to-do list, then I'll start putting together the second building.
Looks nice. Keep it up, I know how boring terrain making can be.
It's not so much the making as the painting I find dull - building the basic structure is okay, but I really enjoy adding all the detail. The problem comes when I then have to paint all the detail I added - then I wish I'd left it plain!
As a minor update, to get around it not having any doors (other than the main ones) or glass in the windows, I've added a door to the floor of the warehouse as if it's been kicked/blown off its hinges, and I've found some clear plastic that I might use as broken glass in one of the windows (it's a bit flimsy, but will do if I don't find anything better).
Another double post, but I just wanted to show some pics before I put this building to one side and move on to the second one. I've just sprayed everything black and the surface feels hard and looks rather good. The main doors are in place - they're rather plain, especially from the front, but should look good when painted. You can also see one mistake I made - when the doors are fully open they partially obstruct the window and door onto the balcony. It's not the end of the world, just a bit annoying.
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Looks excellent so far. Sure the bit about the doors is annoying, but if you have an Inquisitor Scale Valkyrie sitting in the middle of the table I'm sure people won't notice/will forgive the mild oversight.
What materials have you used to make the buildings dave, they look super and have given me the kick in the behind to actually start making stuff instead of just gathering a small collection of rubbish.
They're mainly foam core card and various thicknesses of cardboard, plus I bought some lengths of wood to make the columns. Since doing the first one I've found I have a copy of WD261 (I think that's the right number, the one that has a tutorial on making this sort of buildings), so between that and what I learned doing this one, the next will be a lot better - which is good as it's also a lot more complex, with another floor and a lot more walkways. I've just cut out the walls and masked the edges - I'll post pics either tonight or tomorrow night.
Update time...
As you can see, I've cut out the walls for the next warehouse. Since taking this picture, I've also finished the window frames and the next job is to cut out the walkways & roof then I can start adding the mesh etc to those while I assemble the walls. Doing the window frames is a long, dull, time-consuming task - hopefully things will start to move a bit quicker now they're done.
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In other news, I ordered some Britain's palettes and bales - hopefully they'll arrive soon, so when they do I'll post pics of them next to one of my models. Looking at the pictures, they'll probably have some pretty horrid mould lines, but I think they'll look good once repainted and with some labels attached. Which reminds me - the propaganda posters I got from PO have been great for adding detail - does anyone know of any similar things I can download?
Finally, to those people who I owe e-mails - I can only apologise, I've managed to amass a bit of a backlog of correspondence. I will get through them asap, but in the meantime, sorry for the delay.
I don't think the last one needs a whole lot of improving, but if you want to do better I guess I shouldn't argue. The sliding doors are a nice touch.
I've just unpacked the bales and pallets and they look pretty good. The pallets are especially good and should add some nice detail to the warehouse. As expected, the bales have rather ugly mould lines but they're easily fixable. More annoyingly, they're very light and if stacked are likely to get knocked over during a game - what I'll probably do is glue most of them in stacks to make them a bit more substantial, then just leave one or two loose.
Below you can see some of the bits and pieces I've got to stock the warehouse alongside an Inquisitor model;
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I notice that the bales are very thin plastic with their injection point clearly visible. You could consider filling them with something to weigh them down - plaster, for example, or even water if you then seal them up.
R.
I have considered that, but I could't figure out what to fill them with. I'd be too afraid water would leak while they were in storage - I could try plaster...
Just a quick update while I wait for some of the glue to dry...
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I've also cut out the pieces for the floors and done a few other minor bits and bobs but thought I'd share a pic of how it's looking at the moment. (Wish I knew where I was going to store it once it's completed - it suddenly looks HUGE!)
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Amazing!
You've inspired me to get my own terrain projects out and give them a second bash. I'm seriously impressed with this so far, I'll have to give that website a look at, those props are pretty darn cool. I'm looking forward to seeing it painted, especially knowing it won't have to be me who paints it ;)
Just thought I'd share a pic of the first dry fit of the floors...
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Absolutely brilliant! Really well constructed and could make for some really interesting gameplay. I don't have much to contribute in the way of constructive criticism etc... but thought that I might as well say how well i think it's turning out. It will really add to the board, and combined with the smaller bits and peices of terrain you can just scatter around, the board will be really characterful and interesting.
Are those hay bales glued in place or just for support while it dries?
Just temporary support while I tested the fit - it'll have columns made from wood like the first one when it's finished.
Wow, these buildings are really coming along brilliantly. That texture paint definitely improves the surfaces, and looks easier than the brush-on stuff I use.
Are there going to be stairs or ladders anywhere, or are these just assumed to be 'off stage' (I presume that the buildings will be set up with their open walls along the table edge).
Not exactly sure what all those hay-bales will be doing in a warehouse, unless its on an agri-world, but I suppose its better to have something there. Personally, I'd fill warehouses with crates or packaging containers, if I could find some way to make them.
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Anyhow, looking forward to seeing more of these. I've got to get back to that sewer outlet project of mine...
-Aidan.
Just a quick update - I've added texture to the two floors.
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The next job is the two balconies - either that, or the supports for the floors...
Now with balconies;
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Next up is either the roof or the supports for the floors, or maybe I'll finish detailing the exterior...
I've said it before and i'll say it again; stunning work, can't wait to play on it!
Quote from: Kaled on June 04, 2010, 01:33:18 PM
Next up is either the roof or the supports for the floors, or maybe I'll finish detailing the exterior...
floor supports ;D
looking great Kaled! i may have to go foamcore shopping ;D
I've managed to get a whole load done this afternoon - the roof is now attached and has railings and the rest of the exterior detail is done. I've also cut out all of the supports for the floor. Tomorrow, if the weather holds, I plan to mask the bits I don't want covering in the Stonetouch stuff and I'll spray the exterior. Once that's done I can undercoat the whole thing and then I'll start assembling the floors...
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It is really coming together nicely Dave. I particularly like the door lights (and is that an entry keypad or something similar I see under the lamps?)
Given the shear size of it, it almost defeats the point of having a fold-away game board, doesn't it? ;)
Looking very impressive, Kaled!
One small question, though... Where did you get that metal mesh? I can never find that stuff anywhere without forking out an insane amount of money for it. B+Q wanted something like £40 for an A4 sized sheet...
Yenk try rabbit hutch wire the wires are welded and it comes with 1 " squares holes ( cut down to size for a railing
Quote from: Ynek on June 05, 2010, 01:56:20 AM
Looking very impressive, Kaled!
One small question, though... Where did you get that metal mesh? I can never find that stuff anywhere without forking out an insane amount of money for it. B+Q wanted something like £40 for an A4 sized sheet...
I found some quite cheap in the section for DIY car mods, Aluminium mesh used to repair bodywork.
find an art supplies store, you should be able to find large metal mesh sheets there, it's where I got mine and it's about an A3 sheets worth folded up into an A6 package (looks like a very small version of chicken wire, but there are other styles available). Maroon card packaging I believe.
Quote from: kierkegaard on June 04, 2010, 06:59:18 PM
It is really coming together nicely Dave. I particularly like the door lights (and is that an entry keypad or something similar I see under the lamps?)
It's supposed to be a keypad - what it actually is I don't know. I think one was from the Bastion kit, not sure about the other thing.
QuoteGiven the shear size of it, it almost defeats the point of having a fold-away game board, doesn't it? ;)
It does rather... I had considered trying to make it so it could be disassembled, but decided that the foamcore probably wouldn't survive for long if I did that.
As for the mesh - the railings were, as O_o says, the sort of thing rabbit hutches are made of. I had some left over from a gardening project. The mesh for the floors is, like Adlan says, the stuff used for car bodies - I got it from Halfords for a pound or two per A4 sheet.
Anyway, here are the buildings after a bit of paint - I'm going to give the smaller one another quick coat to even it up a little...
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Next I plan to paint the floors and supports - I figure it'll be easier to do them before I assemble the whole thing.
- Dave
That looks incredible! It's just a bit of paint that's required now ;)
Where did you get the stone spray from?
The Stonetouch stuff was from B&Q, but I've also seen it in Hobbycraft - it was about £9 per can, and one can did both buildings with a little bit left over.
Nice one! I've been pining since GW got rid of their roughcoat spray.
R.
Quote from: precinctomega on June 06, 2010, 05:38:45 PM
I've been pining since GW got rid of their roughcoat spray.
They've got rid of their 'ardcoat spray too (i only found out last night). I think they want to punish us, but i'm not sure what for.... I posit that a member of the GW team had their house or car graffitti'd and has decided to wage a vendetta on spray paints; they're slowly but surely phasing them out...
Sorry there haven't been many updates recently - I guess I should have posted one when I painted the base and drybrushed the walls, but most of my time has been spent painting the walkways and columns and there wasn't really much worth showing until they were assembled.
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Next I either need to paint the exterior or add in the ladders and stairs...
I'm really impressed with this terrain... It's certainly a step above and beyond the stuff that I tend to play on. (Which tends to just be interesting bits of polystyrene foam arranged in a mildly interesting way...)
In short, you've officially made me jealous, old boy!
I haven't had time to make much progress with these recently - I was away all last week and don't think I'll get a chance to work on them this weekend, but I have found time to add in the stairs & ladders, paint the drums and cans in the smaller building and put up a few posters. Hopefully next week I'll have time to paint the exteriors...
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looking great 8)
that second one looks massive! what're the dimensions?
any plans on sharing the posters for those of us too lazy to make our own? ;D
are the platform supports staying white?
i think form an asthetics point of view, having the supports line up would have been good; having them at incoherant distances detracts (ever so) slightly :-[
I think I've played on smaller boards than the second piece. Very impressive though - inquisitor often lacks a suitably cluttered, urbanised landscape, and these terrain pieces fill that hole pretty well.
The columns are actually grey, not white - they're the same grey as the floor unfortunately, but the budget I'd set for paint didn't stretch to a second shade of grey. The reason they don't line up is due to a stupid mistake I made. On the smaller building I set the columns slightly back from the edge of the platform as it looked better, but then without thinkingdid the same for the ground floor of the larger one - I then realised if I lined them up it'd restrict the walkways too much. Unfortunately by this time they were securely glued in place and removing them would have caused serious damage to the walkways, which are basically cardboard...
As for the dimensions, you can get an idea by looking at the bits with models on for an idea of the scale, but it's about a foot tall and the base is a little over a foot square.
EDIT: I can e-mail the posters to anyone who wants them, drop me a PM and I'll send them out.
Afternoon all,
I decided to have a big push this week and to try and get these buildings finished. Before painting the exterior of the buildings I decided to spend a couple of nights painting the crates, barrels etc that I'd gathered to fill out the warehouses.
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I then moved on to finished the small building...
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...and then the large one.
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As you can see, I was going for speed and the general look of the thing without having to spend too long painting anything. I did as much as possible using spray paints, the either used drybrushing, washes or spraying from a distance to dirty things up a little, then most of the detail was done by printing out posters and packing labels, though I did use a few transfers on the large barrels.
Right now I'm working on a generator/computer core to fit in the centre of the large building so it can be used as something other than a warehouse - nothing fancy, just a few Pringle cans stuck together with bits stuck to the outside...
- Dave
more nice work Dave, nice touch with the extra panelling around the large hay bails to make them more container-like.
Inspiring stuff Dave :)
I really like the colour scheme you've gone for, if it were me, I'd have opted for boring grey, highlighted with lighter boring grey!
Are the barrels finished? If so, I'm not fully convinced that neon green and yellow fits into the Grimdark future :S Maybe a dark metallic colour with some yellow and black chevrons would help them fit in a bit more, maybe with some bulletholes and some mysteriously coloured liquid oozing out?
two thumbs up. Inspiring stuff.