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Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by Radu Lykan on May 04, 2019, 09:34:32 AM »
If you want her to be loyalist or attached to a slightly radical inquisitor then perhaps the reason the mutant hand hasnít been replaced is that it grants her an ability. Could be a healing touch thing, maybe the more people she heals and pain/sickness she sucks out the more mutated she becomes?
Perhaps the hand gives her an empathic/telepathic touch that the inquisitor values for interrogations?
Lots of ways to go with it
Community News and Announcements / Re: Dark Heresy VOIP Campaign
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 04, 2019, 02:56:07 AM »
I figured that as I might not be around on Sunday (although I hope to be merely late rather than entirely absent), that I might as well write up some thoughts on the dilemma that Rose is finding herself in.


> User: Xenati, Rosaline
> Passcode: ********
> Command: Commence new text log
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It is becoming painfully clear that this mission and its predecessor have taken a heavy toll on the psyche of the team.

Tallulah was my first major experience of a mind-blanked individual, as although there were some signs that at least some form of the process had been carried out on Maya, it showed little outwardly. It is with the curse of hindsight that I realise both of them were deceptive examples.

A tactful description would be to say that Tallulah was less than fully coherent when we first met, but she did with time appear to resolve into a sane and grounded individual - something that harshly conflicts with Lady Ramona now hypothesising that Tallulah's entire psyche may now have devolved decades back to her adolescence, leaving her in the traumatic outbreak of the "Fulcrum" affair.

I will observe that Ramona didn't communicate how she came by that information, given our lack of direct reconnaissance; my assumption is that it is either a method or side-effect of attack on this kind of psychological conditioning.

Certainly, that seems to be consistent with Maya. Over the last few days, it seems that anything that triggers any form of familiarity is triggering mental breakdown. My best hypothesis at this stage is that our encounter with Veer's daughter compromised her conditioning, allowing her former self to seep through.

It's hard to not feel sorry for her at this stage. We've had our differences, but we have spent years together now, and she is quite possibly the last of our original team, given the extent of Dose's injuries (and certainly better conversation). I'm still in no hurry to forgive or facilitate her intrusive narcotic habits, given the severe setbacks they have caused, but I am beginning to understand why she might choose to lock herself in a chemical daze.

Gaenor is rather more of a mystery. One possibility is of course that our lord and master simply has a penchant for using imprinted individuals, but I feel there is more to it than that.
Perhaps I speak against that option only for the sake of believing that I actually know myself, but her breakdowns do appear very much more focused, strictly related to specific phrases, and her episodes, while apparently hallucinatory, do seem to leave her herself. Not that the incident in the Inquisition facility was positive.

Dorn currently seems to be the only member of the team who is mentally stable, although it would be a generous overstatement to allow that to imply that he is a rationally functioning human being.
For someone who has apparently read our dossiers, and for whom at least a basic comprehension of the motivations of others should be a core occupational skill, it beggars belief that he has yet to understand why I might not be particularly forgiving about waking up with an armed man standing over me.

His increasing piety also concerns me, for the same reason. I have been on the receiving end of blind faith before, and Arbitrators are not known for leniency in their actions; how long before he decides that some fraction of what I know might be heresy?

These are poor allies in trying times. What I wouldn't give to have Rivian alongside me.

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> Command: Encrypt
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> Command: Log off
Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 03, 2019, 02:08:47 AM »
I got these fine gentlemen from eBay for the princely sum of £3.99. The scale is spot on and at £1 each I was pretty happy.
There are a reasonable number of cheap 54mm ranges out there - you said you'd been through my modelling thread, so you should have seen the Airfix WWII Paratroopers I converted into Cadians, but another common one that I've not personally used is the Tehnolog ranges (as much as it feels like it should have a "c" in there, it is just "Tehnolog") most commonly available from Russian sellers on eBay.

I've also got some "Army Men" zombies sitting around that I mean to potentially do something with at some point, although those were surprisingly tricky to get hold of - while it seems any number of 54mm/1:32 zombies have existed at various times, most of them were annoyingly out of production by the time I went looking. Still, it does prove the general concept that there are cheap models out there if you're prepared to do some work to spruce them up.

However, I'm not sure what route to go with them. Current thoughts are pilgrims, Genestealer or Chaos cultists, Imperial Guard, PDF troops or good old fashioned mutants. So you know, I've narrowed it down a bit.
Greenstuff Gav did some Guard/PDF out of some fairly similar models.

If you're not expecting to play though, it's harder to make suggestions - for running scenarios, my advice would be start with generic NPC infantry, as it makes them more widely useful (they can even be secretly traitors or heretics), but if you're expecting to mostly have them as display pieces, you may want to get more adventurous.
Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by Dallo on May 02, 2019, 10:24:36 PM »
Just a small update tonight.

It turns out showing an interest in this game is a bit of a slippery slope...

I got these fine gentlemen from eBay for the princely sum of £3.99. The scale is spot on and at £1 each I was pretty happy.

They'll obviously need cleaning up and bases (I have a set of the Sector Imperialis 40mm bases, which should keep things fairly simple).

However, I'm not sure what route to go with them. Current thoughts are pilgrims, Genestealer or Chaos cultists, Imperial Guard, PDF troops or good old fashioned mutants. So you know, I've narrowed it down a bit.  ;D

The weapons will be getting replaced at any rate. The heads are pretty dire, so I'm not sure if it would be better to attempt to remove the hats and fix up the damage with greenstuff or just find some 3rd party heads. If anyone knows of any bits vendors selling appropriately scaled heads, please let me know.

Suggestions are welcome.

Painting and Modelling / Re: Marco does something
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 02, 2019, 01:29:56 AM »
A little, but not much. It's one of those things that'd be cool more than it is necessary, and is also pretty technically challenging, so it tends to fall by the wayside in favour of other things. For example, I have other plans like an Arvus Lighter, which would be simpler and more generically useful for scenarios.

But yes, I really should try to get it finished some day, because it was never supposed to be practical - it was supposed to be obnoxiously attention grabbing lunacy.
Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 02, 2019, 01:18:32 AM »
Well, there is some flexibility, but we're looking at an overall style of the dress that is reminiscent of Renaissance nobility.

As with most WH40k fashion, it's usually not possible to nail it down too closely to a specific era within the several centuries that covers, but you can pick out things like the dramatic and impractical shoulders as a sign of an individual as someone who has money to spend on looking important rather than worrying about functional working clothes.

Given it's not practical working wear, I think it will be difficult to have the character come across as less than at least self-important and having a bit of money to spare. I could see that "middle level of society" working reasonably well for a pure human character, but there's not really much middle-ground for mutants; there's those who have the resources to hide their mutation, and there's those who haven't and therefore end up without even two Throne Gelt to rub together.

It's not impossible (after all, the Imperium is vast, there are a few oddities), but they are questions to think about.
Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by Dallo on May 02, 2019, 12:29:37 AM »
Thanks for the reply.

With regards to the fancy clothes denoting riches, I'm not 100% on board with that. It's the 41st Millennium. I imagine they can cheaply make a cloak. Nothing is set in stone yet, but I was hoping to use some of the Laketown clothing from the Hobbit movies as a rough painting guide as I feel that it does a good job of capturing faded grandeur. The dresses were perhaps expensive once, but a lifetime of wear has worn the colours away.

I think there's a world of difference between "can afford a nice dress" and "has enough money to buy a robotic hand". Having said that, making her a genestealer cultist could potentially be an interesting conversion challenge. I'll sleep on it.

Painting and Modelling / Re: Marco does something
« Last post by Dallo on May 02, 2019, 12:21:06 AM »
Well, now it's past my bedtime and I'm pretty tired, but I made it through your entire thread. Congratulations. You're a bad influence. :p

It's pretty cool to see the sped up version of your hobby journey. The greenstuff sculpts in particular were inspiring. GS isn't an aspect of the hobby that I'd be overly strong in, but you're tempting me to give it a go.

Believe it or not, I was looking through your Warhound log at lunch today and decided not to necro it, but since you've mentioned it, did you ever get any further with it?

Painting and Modelling / Re: Dallo tries Inquisitor
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 02, 2019, 12:19:02 AM »
Iíll have to check the scale though as Bolt Action tends to be slimmer than normal GW plastics.
My guess is that it won't work. You can just about get away with certain GW 28mm parts on slender 54mm models on the basis that GW's "heroic" style exaggerates the size of certain details like weapons and hands (making them both easier to paint and a model's equipment more identifiable in game), but anything even a touch smaller tends not to work.

The choice really comes down to whether or not I want the character to have a mutated hand. Iím of the opinion that it gives her a bit more personality, but Iíd like to hear your opinions.
That kind of thing can be potentially interesting, but it's worth taking care with adopting that strategy of designing characters; It's a good idea for things to build up into a consistent whole, so the question is about whether you can build it into part of the overall story.

If she's got the financial means to be quite so smartly dressed, a mutated hand raises the question of why she doesn't simply have it amputated and replaced with a bionic, a far more effective and less hindering way of hiding the mutation.
As far as explanations for that, I would have to suspect that she was not a loyal Imperial servant, and she actually somehow considers the mutation a mark of favour - a Chaos or genestealer (which would help with the hair problem, certainly) cultist. If you think she's loyalist, then it's much more of a struggle to justify the combination of her mutation and attire.

Not impossible, but it is something to think about.

at this point, Iím thinking it might be some kind of sculpting putty instead of paint
It seems likely. Given the model is missing other parts of its original hair, it looks like it may have been an ill-fated attempt by the previous owner to convert the model.
Painting and Modelling / Re: Marco does something
« Last post by MarcoSkoll on May 01, 2019, 11:56:21 PM »
Some really nice stuff you've got here. I haven't had the time to go through this entire thread yet, but I fully intend to.
I think you'll be met with an embarrassing number of forgotten and unfinished projects (although fortunately on that front, my Warhound Titan build has its own thread...), but thanks nonetheless.
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