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Re: Project Jubilee (a.k.a. Leander, 54mm Warhound Titan)
« Reply #90 on: March 08, 2016, 09:44:14 AM »
Ditto.
My preference is definitely for the Military type, but I think both ideas have merit.
The first one can be taken from any 54mm available soldier models (surely there must be a few that would actually fit? I think I saw at least one (debatably sculpted - you'd probably need a headswap, and maybe some hair sculpting, and if you want to show off the arms you'd have to swap those out too) that would work.

Although, saying that I think if you grabbed that helmeted Mass Effect lady I dug up (the one you said would be good for a bodyglove) that would give you a perfect base. You'd still need a head and arm swap though.
I think female Shepherd model (same ebay seller/company) has some spare heads - one might work as a basis?
Arms will be difficult though.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322014943504?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Femshep example

Nevermind it looks like I got the last female shepard model. It comes with a helmeted head, and then two with hair - one could have the hair carved off and then short hair resculpted?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FemShep-MassEffect-resin-souvenir-collectible-figurine-54mm-european-head-/301827699924?hash=item46465534d4:g:W5EAAOSw14xWJkQ1
Bit expensive just for a head  ???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/54mm-Cerberus-Phantom-MassEffect-resin-figure-with-acrylic-base-/301748872138?hash=item4641a263ca:g:Y44AAOSw5VFWHSFv
Cerberus base?




If you can find one of these it might work?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/182024903381?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Not sure if this will work.



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/54mm-Isabela-pirate-girl-resin-figure-Dragon-Age-miniature-/291196216141?hash=item43cca5a34d:g:CMAAAOSwVL1WDo7A
Possible base for second character? Looks reasonable, ish.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/54-mm-Ladytron-Lady-Cyborg-figure-with-acrylic-base-NorthStarModels-/291375251499?hash=item43d751802b:g:pjUAAOSwtlhWFYMt
Not sure.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/54-mm-Female-Executioner-figure-with-acrylic-base-NorthStarModels-/301518999546?hash=item4633eecffa:g:pSwAAOSwhcJWHRXZ
Ditto

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/54-mm-Battle-Nun-figure-with-resin-base-NorthStarModels-/291375251684?hash=item43d75180e4:g:EXAAAOSwx~JWFTUN
again, ditto.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/286-Tin-54mm-Toy-Soldier-Roman-Amazon-female-gladiator-/262292382577?hash=item3d11d82371:g:YYsAAOSwhcJWLTfB
As above



Black dog is a bit "maybe" and a bit "meh".
The facial sculpts aren't great, and it's 1:35 rather than 1:32.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Dog-1-35-Israeli-women-soldiers-set-N-2-resin-figures-/191813462822?hash=item2ca8f92b26:g:8LkAAOSwUuFWzt-F

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Dog-1-35-IDF-Israeli-Woman-Soldiers-Set-2-Figures-F35091-/181284256578?hash=item2a35623b42:g:TnAAAOxyUrZSsajg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-35-BLACKDOG-U-S-Woman-Soldiers-in-Iraq-resin-kit-/121800935119?hash=item1c5be6c6cf:g:H8EAAOxygPtS9QZI

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Dog-F35134-1-35-US-Woman-Soldier-Soldier-With-Dog-/141766273352?hash=item2101eda948:g:3GsAAOSwyQtV6uSR




These are all pretty much the most optimistic results for female sculpts of the "not pegaso, and not andrea" variety, as both pegaso and andrea (and a couple others) largely seem to focus on very busy (and flaunty) fantasy female sculpts. Many of which usually have too many details sculpted directly into the model requiring extra work for cleanup/alteration.
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Re: Project Jubilee (a.k.a. Leander, 54mm Warhound Titan)
« Reply #91 on: March 09, 2016, 02:17:15 AM »
I'm liking the (space) Hispanic character. Getting a real Pvt. Vasquez vibe off of her. She sounds like she'd be a lot of fun in-game and strays far enough from "typical" (as typical as Principes are I suppose) to be interesting. Plus the picture has a great feel.
The Hispanic version is probably my preferred option at the moment, but I thought I'd throw them both out there for consideration.

The African version is actually the original concept and I do still like it, but the idea of a previously-military Princeps has been growing on me for several reasons (most of which I'm too tired to properly articulate, so bleurgh).

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I suppose that Principes would get a lot of leeway in terms of personal dress and the like. They're rare enough to have tons of leverage based solely on that. In terms of battlefield ability they're important enough in their role  that they need to be tacticians unto themselves. I think the concept is sound and I really like the idea of a Principe that totally defies expectations that way.
That's pretty much the thinking. (On the other hand, I suspect that Moderatii are probably more conformist - given the lower standards required, I suppose that a greater proportion of them come from forge worlds).

In Helane's case specifically, I think an unconventional appearance would help convey her being a bit of a maverick - not necessarily in an out-of-control way, but given she's involved with the Inquisition, she has to handle some rather "unconventional" mission objectives (calling for a certain degree of flexibility and/or initiative) and very complicated politics; she has to be able to assess situations rather than sheepishly obeying any command any Inquisitor shouts at her.

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Your second choice looks like a great character concept too. I'm just a bigger fan of the first idea. Don't abandon this one though, she looks like she'd make a great character.
I'll be keeping whichever version I don't go with on file for a later stage. Likely not as a Princeps, given the relatively limited need for a second named one in game, but there are definitely alternative uses for either.

The first one can be taken from any 54mm available soldier models (surely there must be a few that would actually fit?)
While I appreciate the attempt to help, the model isn't going to be a problem; I've sculpted the vast majority of my current 54mm player characters*. (My 28mm PCs instead tend to be excuses to use models I like, although there's still a lot of sculpting).

* As it is, I am thinking of Helane as a player character, even I'll only normally be using her as part of GMing a scenario. While Principes have the potential to be really interesting characters, there aren't that many opportunities to roleplay one, so I'll be taking the chance when I can.
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Re: Project Jubilee (a.k.a. Leander, 54mm Warhound Titan)
« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2017, 01:34:07 AM »
Elevating the recent talk building about powerful characters slightly, a tiny bit of progress.

I took Leander's project box to the gaming club on Monday, and got most of the remaining "honeycomb" for the reactors finished:


It's probably hard to spot exactly what's been added, but if you compare to earlier photos, you can see that the top section overlapping the torso has been added in.



You can also see the wiring loom that's been added to run through the reactors to provide power to the various lighting/motors in the weapon arms, although that's been done for a while.
Not sure if I mentioned it before, but these feed to 3.5mm jack sockets (like most smaller headphones use) so that the weapon arms can be disconnected. This will theoretically allow alternative weapon arms (e.g. Turbo-laser Destructor or Inferno gun) to be made and mounted instead, although I'm doubtful if I'll ever do that; as I've said before, the only real difference between Titan weapons in Inquisitor is whether the target turns into ash, vapour or bloody chunks, and the plasma blastgun & vulcan bolter is a classic combination that gives the option for pretty lights and spinny barrels.

Still, it doesn't hurt to plan ahead.

This gets me close to being able to shape the final armour over the reactors (one of the challenges of making a Mars Pattern is making these curved shapes - probably the reason there are very few scratch-builds out there), although I may have to leave actually fitting those until very late on (as I may need to shove lead shot into the reactor honeycomb depending on how well she balances).

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Two more things:

1) I'm now nicely set on the military "Hispanic" version of Helane (see last page), although I will put the "African" design to one side to be used later.
I'm still fine-tuning her background and need to think more about her moderatii, but at least I know where I'm going.

2) And while checking the parts before taking them to the club, I amused myself by precariously balancing them for a test pose to get more idea of the end result:


Should give you a broad idea of just how big she is.
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Re: Project Jubilee (a.k.a. Leander, 54mm Warhound Titan)
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2017, 07:23:31 PM »
Well........... Looks like Banus needs to bring some Melta Bombs :D

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Re: Project Jubilee (a.k.a. Leander, 54mm Warhound Titan)
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2017, 01:42:18 AM »
It wouldn't do him a massive amount of good. ;)

In game, Leander will be effectively invincible, but also won't generally directly target the characters unless they're daft enough to present a threat; for the players, she's something to work around (or with) rather than take head on. The invulnerability is kind of the point of her as both a character and plot element. She's supposed to be a war engine entirely capable of turning the course of a conflict, but she wouldn't be very convincing in that role or worth petitioning to have on your side if a couple of overenthusiastic PCs could easily pose a threat to her.

Should anyone be rash enough to try and test her might, she will have rules - both a "realistic" profile* and some guidelines for if I do want to give player characters a ghost of a chance of surviving a fight with her.

* Hypothetical and not intended for serious use, but it makes for a good point of reference, and is kind of fun from an academic point of view.
Toughness-wise, she has up to twelve injury levels on some locations, a "hardened" rule that halves the effectiveness of armour piercing attacks, and no armour values under 20.
In terms of firepower, the plasma blastgun throws out numbers like Blast 6, Dam 4D10 Tearing(2), and even her warhorn can be used as a weapon in a pinch. (It can be obnoxiously loud).
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