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The Specialist Games plug is being pulled, it would seem...

Started by MarcoSkoll, April 29, 2013, 06:34:40 PM

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MarcoSkoll

As discussed here, the latest news seems to be that lots and LOTS of Specialist Games models are becoming "No longer available" (with customer services apparently saying they're gone for good, with the rest due to follow).

Current count for Inquisitor seems to be that the following models can no longer be bought from the website:
Cherubael
Von Castellan
Devout Twins
Bounty Hunter
Kroot Mercenary

So, it looks like GW might be starting to launch the long expected final assault on Specialist Games. If you have anything you want to order, delaying is probably a bad idea.
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Captain L. Rollin: "Nonsense. Never heard of it."
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greenstuff_gav

Kreiger isn't available either; i wants one  :'(

so i suppose the Big Question is what does this mean for Inquisitor?
do we encourage recasting or venture out into our own miniature lines or does it stagnate to death? :(

i did a quick tot-up the other day; it's like £500 for the range (with the theory of putting 'em safe for recasting :D ) ...
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MarcoSkoll

Ah, Krieger is listed as "Four to Five weeks" rather than "Unavailable" (so he's not missing the little "Add to Cart" button, and I therefore didn't see it in my skim of the category pages) - however, I'm expecting that's probably it for him too.

Quote from: greenstuff_gav on April 29, 2013, 06:49:13 PMso i suppose the Big Question is what does this mean for Inquisitor?
do we encourage recasting or venture out into our own miniature lines or does it stagnate to death? :(
It might well push me into actually trying the miniature line I've been contemplating for years now.

I dare say I could manage it - I'm not exactly a slouch with the design or the sculpting.
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Captain L. Rollin: "Nonsense. Never heard of it."
Birgen: "Pick a window. I'll demonstrate".

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greenstuff_gav

i tried to order him and get a "No sufficient stock for the selected item: sku1070048" message :(

dooo iiiit! i'd volunteer Liwet but she's with Skyfall atm.. i have the scout  ;)
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Necris

Is this not the case of the molds having finally given up the ghost and that's it which is a dammed shame
This here is my very favourite gun...I call her rita.

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Easy E

Nope, it probably has more to do with GW no longer wanting to use Metal and no point for them in transferring the molds over to be resin capable.

However, I know almost nothing about this type of technology.   
^Cheapskate^

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Quote from: greenstuff_gav on April 29, 2013, 06:49:13 PM
so i suppose the Big Question is what does this mean for Inquisitor?
do we encourage recasting or venture out into our own miniature lines or does it stagnate to death? :(

Well, given that there have been no new miniatures from G.W. for years and years now, and, in fact they have actually reduced the range (taking away the Servo-skulls, weapons packs, Marine helmets ect.), I think that Inquisitor under Games Workshop is already about as stagnated as it can possibly get.

Any progress which has happened in Inquisitor for the last however-many-years has all come from the fan base anyway. Frankly I don't see how G.W. finally formalising it's withdrawal of specialist games' support will change very much around here!

(That said, I'm sure that in a year or two's time I'll think of some new model or other which needs a 'Magos Gruss' or an 'Inquisitor Covenant' or what ever, and I'll deeply lament my lack of foresight in failing to buy one when I had the Chance...)
'A truth that's told with bad intent beats all the lies you can invent.' -  William Wordsworth.

MarcoSkoll

I did bring up on Ammobunker that while large parts of the community (either due to collecting 28mm, or being liberal with 54mm) are not reliant on purchasing the official Inquisitor models, termination of the range may well result in a termination of the downloads section (reducing the likelihood of further recruitment. Yes, other rules downloads exist; No, they're not somewhere people would look) and possibly a change in how welcome we might be at Warhammer World.

It could change a lot around here.

As for the reason for the withdrawal - I do suspect the moulds are probably the truth of it, as we've long been informed that they had no interest in replacing them when they were done. (Particularly now Finecast has come in).
It may be that they had a big spring clean, realised many moulds were dead and are now going to take the arbitrary decision that the rest are on the way out.
S.Sgt Silva Birgen: "Good evening, we're here from the Adeptus Defenestratus."
Captain L. Rollin: "Nonsense. Never heard of it."
Birgen: "Pick a window. I'll demonstrate".

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Koval

As a quick notice -- Eisenhorn is now No Longer Available.

Charax

Ah nuts, and I'm not home for the next couple of days. Not that I use many official GW minis anyway (3rd parties are so much better!) I will miss them. I heartily support any efforts to recast the range or bring a new one into production.

Hope I can get a Jena & Thorian in time
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MarcoSkoll

Quote from: Charax on May 04, 2013, 03:01:19 PMAh nuts, and I'm not home for the next couple of days.
If you have a nearby GW you're actually willing to go into (or that they'll let you into), you could get them sent there and pick them up on your schedule.

But if the problem is not about taking delivery, disregard.
S.Sgt Silva Birgen: "Good evening, we're here from the Adeptus Defenestratus."
Captain L. Rollin: "Nonsense. Never heard of it."
Birgen: "Pick a window. I'll demonstrate".

GW's =I= articles

Charax

Well actually I don't have a local GW and there's none where I'm staying, it was more about not being able to get to a secure PC to order from, but I just remembered I can remote into my home PC from my phone, so as soon as I get a decent wifi signal I can buy them

... If there are any left.

Just wondering, what does this mean for the InqGTs? Should they still be played at WHW, handing money to the company which has axed the game? Will they even want it there, given that it promotes a game they don't support, using models they don't sell?

This might actually get me to model a full war and, God knows I've collected more than enough figures for it
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greenstuff_gav

even more reason got get shirts and orgnaise more events at WHW? :-)

i popped.into my local gw.tp find theyre closed half the week :lol:

kreiger is gone so i guess i gotta start sculpting now... and make sure i get things cast as i go (assuming i can afford.to!)
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Koval

Seeing as the question of the validity of continuing to hold Inquisitor events at WHW just came up, is there any way for us to have events (possibly even on a Sunday) at a non-GWHQ location?

MarcoSkoll

To address the questions in a more practical order:

Quote from: Charax on May 04, 2013, 06:31:34 PMWill they even want it there, given that it promotes a game they don't support, using models they don't sell?
They're generally reasonably flexible about OOP games being played at WHW.

They've actually got boards specifically for Space Hulk (which we sometimes borrow), and they don't sell that any more.

QuoteShould they still be played at WHW, handing money to the company which has axed the game?
That's a bit of a sticky wicket. The question really is, where else? I don't have an exhaustive list of wargaming venues in my head, but it needs to be around about in the Midlands in order to keep it reasonably central.

In any case, it may mean we stop doing vouchers with the IGT prize fund , seeing they're now rather less useful to 54mm players (if there were 28mm interest, we might need careful consideration of this though).
S.Sgt Silva Birgen: "Good evening, we're here from the Adeptus Defenestratus."
Captain L. Rollin: "Nonsense. Never heard of it."
Birgen: "Pick a window. I'll demonstrate".

GW's =I= articles