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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Painting and Modelling => Topic started by: eyeolas on February 01, 2011, 07:52:46 PM

Title: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: eyeolas on February 01, 2011, 07:52:46 PM
After a long gestation period between writting some fluff and actually getting some parts, I've finally decided on some model ideas I'm going to pursue (some realistic ones this time ;)). This is all still early going but hopefully this log will keep me motivated to get some cool minis finished.

Since people always look at the pictures first, my first completed model (currently receiving a lick of paint), a junor officer:

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2010446.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2010443.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2010442.jpg)

I'm sure its been done before, but a nice simple conversion to ease me into 54mm. The current vague idea for him is as a bodyguard to a noble family, featuring the father, daughter and their tech servator.


And since I'm never content with one project at once, I've got a group of three also on the go, the first snippit of which is:

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2010448.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2010452.jpg)

I received a random barbaretta body in an ebay win, so decided to use it as an armature for a camo'd sniper. Clearly still very WiP, but the basics is there for a large camo cloak to be sculpted on top of (possibly with a nod towards a gilly suit, but that's still to be decided). He's going to be acompanied by a bounty hunter and daemonhost, the original duo that got me writing in the first place.

As a side note, I'm trying to track down a Jena Orechiel model (with or without pistol) and a full cherubael in case anyone has them. I've put a (already outdated) post on the ASR, but a small mention here can't hurt either, especially since I've gained a few parts since the post.

Let me know what you think
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: precinctomega on February 01, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
Good start on the officer and the reposing of the Barbaretta body looks just right.  Should make an excellent armature.

R.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: Holiad on February 01, 2011, 10:16:35 PM
I like the officer- a very nice dramatic conversion of the judge model.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: kierkegaard on February 03, 2011, 05:59:02 PM
I've never seen a Judge with Eisenhorn's arms before. I like it though.

I also like the slung shotgun, but I can't work out where the strap goes (it seems to disappear into the collar on one side and the shoulder pad on the other.)
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: eyeolas on February 03, 2011, 08:00:09 PM
Thanks for the nice posts

The strap does indeed go from one shoulder to the other (under each shoulder pad). I decided it was the best way of keeping it out of his way for combat, but still accessible for those situations where shotguns make life easier. Never did quite decide whether the strap connects full circle through the collar or just clips under each pad, but I guess it leaves a little to the imagination ;)

And for a small update, I've been doing some scultping on the sniper:

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2030456.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2030455.jpg)

I've only done a small bit of sculpting in preparation for the arms arriving (hopefully tomorrow). After they're on I'll have a much better idea of how much of him will be covered in camo, and hence if any more sculpting is needed.

I've also found something I think will work for his gilly suit:

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2030457.jpg)

A stray piece of medical gauze, which will hopefully give him enough texture to pull off the look, but I'm still a tad undecided if anyone has any other ideas.

As ever, let me know
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: RobSkib on February 04, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
Have you considered using actual foliage? There are some mosses and brachens in my garden that, when dried, produce an excellent scale camoflauge netting. To be honest though, with your skill at sculpting, I think any ghillie suit additions might ruin the lovely GS work you've done! Perhaps you could try a digital camo like PO did a few threads down?
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: precinctomega on February 05, 2011, 05:06:02 PM
The GS work on the torso and crotch is good. On the leg itself, you've put too much fabric down. When you kneel like that, the fabric should pull tight along the thigh and down to the shin. Even beneath the thigh, it should be tight along the buttock and over the hamstring, gathering only immediately behind the knee.

R.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: eyeolas on February 05, 2011, 08:20:11 PM
Curses, that advice would've been perfect about... 3 hours ago >_<.

Well, my bounty hunter arrived and I quickly started hacking pieces left right and center, but had a couple issues in the meantime. Firstly, after modifying the sniper's weapon, I found he couldn't really hold it in a convincing way without it ending up below his base. this meant I either needed to hack apart the arm to hold the gun differently, or elivate him entirely. Seeing the second as the more elegant solution, a quick base swap with some GW cities of death bits and he was all set. This does however mean I've set the standard for the team in an urban environment, so have decided (along with the above advice) to abolish any ideas of a gilly suit and just leave him with a large cloak.

With this in mind, I've done some work on extending the GS (still WiP, I'll have a go at flattening the legs just a tad, as I definately agree there's too much fabric)

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050466.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050468.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050462.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050465.jpg)

(don't worry, that's not a horendous mould line, merely white plastic, and the left arm will be holding a 40k auspex incase anyone was wondering.)

Also, after several hours of trying to work out how to accomplish a nigh impossible concept, I've finally had some headway on my inquisitor. Anatomically he -just about- works, but hopefully with a clever bit of GS and a suitable pose for his left arm and head he'll look plausible.

(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050471.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050473.jpg)
(http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb253/eyeolas/P2050474.jpg)

On the topic of left arm/head, what do people think for him? I'm torn between him looking over his left shoulder with his pistol hand pulled back over his upper chest, or him pointing his pistol straight out of the first photo. Apart from that he'll also get a skirt under his torso's jacket to further empasise the idea of movement, and to cover up some of the modeling issues of attaching the bounty hunter's large torso to Slick's "double pistol, lots of pouches" legs.

And as ever, any C+C let me know
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: Heroka Vendile on February 05, 2011, 11:05:20 PM
Nice sculpting work. The pose on the Inquisitor looks like it could work well.

That's some very bulky basing you've put together for the sniper, might make it rather awkward to game with - surely you only need ~5mm elevation max? Could be achieved with just a cut-down CoD floor panel.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: Myriad on February 05, 2011, 11:15:46 PM
I love the idea of an inquisitor with a gun behind his back, and I'm pretty impressed you got it to work.  Very keen to see where this is going.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: Kaled on February 06, 2011, 08:34:31 AM
Surely it would be much easier to cut and bend the sniper's arm at the elbow to adjust the angle of the gun and then rebuild the stock - that base does look rather unwieldy.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: precinctomega on February 06, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
As for the sniper, it's not too late.  A sharp scalpel will fix the excess fabric on the thigh.

The running character looks great, but one can't help wondering what that book is attached to.  Some pretty radical work with a razor saw and more GS will be needed to make it work.

R.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: eyeolas on February 06, 2011, 11:41:38 PM
Pictureless update:

After some deliberation, I decided the public were right in thinking the sniper's base was too much. He's now back on his old flat base with his right arm lifted just a tad so the sniper barrel is a hair above the ground (ie, still below the base line). I've since added some more GS on his other leg and arms and glued his head on, so aside from some minor touch ups all that's left is to find an auspex for him to hold and to sculpt his cloak (which I still need to find some thin sheet metal for to use as a base).

As for the inquisitor, he's been in and out of fully built several times now. I decided to have his right arm wrapping around his neck with a power shortsword from St Celestine with his head (the hatted one ofc, now with sculpted bandana over all but his right eye) looking over his right shoulder. I also lowered his right foot as it didn't work anatomically (needed a second knee or to extend his thigh far too far), but the pose hasn't been compramised.

And in responce to PO's issue, the current idea for the book/shotgun combo is to have straps down from the loops and clips on the back of his jacket, but this may be subject to change as the model progresses. As he stands atm, the book, shotgun, and his left arm up to the elbow are all removed (as a single part) untill I find some sheet metal for his cloak, after which I'll be able to see much better how they sit on his back and hence how I'll be able to attach them.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: Kaled on February 07, 2011, 06:35:51 AM
Quote from: eyeolas on February 06, 2011, 11:41:38 PM
which I still need to find some thin sheet metal for to use as a base
Tomato purée tube (or similar) is perfect.
Title: Re: Eyeolas finally gets some models sorted
Post by: eyeolas on February 08, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
Quick question for those who've done it before:

I've got the metal bases for the guys' cloaks glued on and in the right shape atm, but am a little scepticle about their ability to hold while I put the first layers of green stuff on. Will a couple layers of pva glue help harden them? Or is there another favoured meathod some people have used?

Cheers