Hello all,
So, this is the first character I will include in my Inq warband. I've read a lot of guides (especially the Conclave one) and so I hope that my character isn't too faulty :)
Anyway, here he is (with a quick description too):
Ecclesiarchy Preacher Yassen
Young and zealous, Yassen is eager to prove his faith in the Emperor and his worth in battle, often foolishly charging the enemy head-on, hacking away at them, one by one, until they are little more than piles ofshattered bone and gore.
Recruited by Inquisitor Crexus during his usual resupply stop on Keffen IX, he was considered by the local Cardinal and his followers as "a disturber of peace" and quite mad. All attempts made by Yassen to root out perceived corruption among the local population were thwarted by the Cardinal, who saw them as nothing more than unneeded killings. To keep him out of the way, the "mad preacher" was thrown into a cell until "he calmed down", as the cell guard put it.
Upon hearing about this "mad preacher", he requested to see him, the Cardinal not being able to do anything against the power of the Inquisitorial Rosette. Astonished by Yassen's incredible faith in the Emperor and his will to root out heresy of any sort, Crexus promises the preacher's release if in return, he swears loyalty to the Inquisitor.
Accepting the bargain, he is released and has loyally served Crexus for several years, earning himself a fearful but solid reputation and becoming the Inquisitor's personal confessor and priest.
WS BS S T I Wp Sg Nv Ld
51 32 54 55 36 60 35 67 45
Equipment: Robes (Av 2) on all locations except head; eviscerator; knuckle dusters; refractor field.
Special skills: Word of the Emperor; Frenzy.
All comments appreciated :)
Ludovic
Looks good, gonna be based on Malicent I assume?
The Background is short, and fairly simple, but it fits, and gives me a real sense of what to expect from the character. Some more depth (and length) will come as he gets played I assume? Rivalries, mannerisms, habits and the like?
When it comes to Stats, it'd be fine for a Frateris Militia, but not for a Preacher. Unless in his backstory, he's meant to be a distinctly non combat preacher, and didn't pay attention in any of his lessons on killing the emperors foes? I'd give him more WS, and depending on the model, and what you are envisioning for this character, more strength.
Or, more skills might make sense, maybe a prayer litany that actually does boost his Stats, so strong is his faith?
Litanies of Hate: When Yassan suffers damage from an opponent, or deals damage to an opponent, he can begin reciting Litanies of Hate, and will gain D6 to Weapon Skill, Strength, Toughness and Nerve for every turn he can recite the Litanies. Yassan must stop reciting if he suffers injury to the head, is stunned and taken out of action, or if he fails a nerve test.
Just something off the top of my head, seemed to fit the background.
Morning!
Well, with regards to whether a character is 'faulty', it's rather difficult to say most of the time. It's only if they have glaringly odd stats, or uber-skills or vast amounts of stuff that it causes alarm bells to ring. Personally I find a lot of what makes a character 'work' is how they're played. Obviously, this differes from group to group, so I can't speak for anyone else, but were Yassen to step foot on my table I certainly wouldn't have any problems.
I like the fact that he's relatively simple rules-wise and certainly isn't overpowered. If anything I'd be inclined to boost his Strength and Toughness a little, if you're going for the warrior-priest deal.
Personallly I quite like the idea that there are 'more tea vicar' quiet sections of the Ecclesiarchy, it certainly brings a smile to my face. The questions this raises though are very much background related. If Yassen has gone around hacking and slashing, when and where was this? Why does he even have the opportunity to do so in this quiet diocese? Are we talking about a preacher who has moved in and met with disapproval from the Cardinals, or a local who's gone a bit chainsaw-happy?
Both would work in my opinion, but it would be good to get more background and justification for it!
Oh yes, and how do you paln on modelling him?
Quote from: Adlan on March 07, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
Looks good, gonna be based on Malicent I assume?
Quote from: Aurelius 12 on March 07, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
Oh yes, and how do you paln on modelling him?
Nope, I'm going to be using 28mm models for a couple of reasons. First, it's cheaper. Second, I prefer working with plastic and smaller models.
I'll be using the Flagellant box as a base, with the eviscerator being built out of whatever I can find in my bitz box. I may also do a touch of sculpting (such as robe sleeves) but nothing major.
Quote from: Adlan on March 07, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
The Background is short, and fairly simple, but it fits, and gives me a real sense of what to expect from the character. Some more depth (and length) will come as he gets played I assume? Rivalries, mannerisms, habits and the like?
Yep, there will be more as I get games going :)
QuoteWhen it comes to Stats, it'd be fine for a Frateris Militia, but not for a Preacher. Unless in his backstory, he's meant to be a distinctly non combat preacher, and didn't pay attention in any of his lessons on killing the emperors foes? I'd give him more WS, and depending on the model, and what you are envisioning for this character, more strength.
Frateris Militia? I thought they were banned?
And yes, a preacher is supposed to preach the Emperor's word, and Yassen does this, though in battle and wielding an eviscerator, not a holy book ;)
QuoteLitanies of Hate: When Yassan suffers damage from an opponent, or deals damage to an opponent, he can begin reciting Litanies of Hate, and will gain D6 to Weapon Skill, Strength, Toughness and Nerve for every turn he can recite the Litanies. Yassan must stop reciting if he suffers injury to the head, is stunned and taken out of action, or if he fails a nerve test.
Oh, I like that. Cheers :) Will see if I include it though... I may just keep him as he is for the mo (for my first games).
QuoteWell, with regards to whether a character is 'faulty', it's rather difficult to say most of the time. It's only if they have glaringly odd stats, or uber-skills or vast amounts of stuff that it causes alarm bells to ring. Personally I find a lot of what makes a character 'work' is how they're played. Obviously, this differes from group to group, so I can't speak for anyone else, but were Yassen to step foot on my table I certainly wouldn't have any problems.
Ok, great :) That reassures me!
QuoteI like the fact that he's relatively simple rules-wise and certainly isn't overpowered. If anything I'd be inclined to boost his Strength and Toughness a little, if you're going for the warrior-priest deal.
Hum... I may do this, but I was thinking that he was more a "new" warrior, and so isn't really strong or tough (something he will become as games are played), though if you think that he's a bit on the weaker side for his role, then I will push his stats up a bit.
QuotePersonallly I quite like the idea that there are 'more tea vicar' quiet sections of the Ecclesiarchy, it certainly brings a smile to my face. The questions this raises though are very much background related. If Yassen has gone around hacking and slashing, when and where was this? Why does he even have the opportunity to do so in this quiet diocese? Are we talking about a preacher who has moved in and met with disapproval from the Cardinals, or a local who's gone a bit chainsaw-happy?
Both would work in my opinion, but it would be good to get more background and justification for it!
Ok, I'll give it some thought and get the background updated quite soon.
Cheers for the replies and advice :)
Ludovic
I like him, and the idea of 'less combatant' characters in general. If he's going to swing an eviscerator he's going to need a higher strength though. I'd probably go with something like S 55, T 50.
Quote from: Myriad on March 07, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
I like him, and the idea of 'less combatant' characters in general. If he's going to swing an eviscerator he's going to need a higher strength though. I'd probably go with something like S 55, T 50.
Hum.. maybe... the thing is, I don't want my character to be as strong as a soldier, because he isn't one. He's some crazy guy who likes chopping things with his chainblade... Maybe I should change the eviscerator for a normal chainsword but make him wield it two-handed?
Ludovic
A character with so low WS and low S and T too who likes too charge had first into the enemy.........hell be spending alot of time in the sick bay!
Quote from: ismeno on March 07, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
A character with so low WS and low S and T too who likes too charge had first into the enemy.........hell be spending alot of time in the sick bay!
Ok... I'll push up his stats a little ;)
Ludovic
Edit: I pushed the WS up to 51, the S to 47 and the T to 45. Better?
Quote from: BrotherLudovic on March 07, 2011, 11:48:44 AMFrateris Militia? I thought they were banned?
No. They're only unofficially working for the Ecclesiarchy and fight only under the indirect control of the priesthood. If anyone questions it, they'll be no more than some local rabble whipped up into a religious frenzy, not actual troops of the Ecclesiarchy.
QuoteI don't want my character to be as strong as a soldier
I take it as "fit human" not "fit human like a soldier" - I think there was a serious misunderestimation* of a soldier's fitness when that was written. Soldiers are very definitely on the high end of fit, so I tend to put them more around 60.
I've had a few rambles about the Toughness stat in the past, and they mostly come down to "think of 40 as the absolute lower limit for any vaguely serious character". Even at T40, they'll be very weak (Not accounting for armour, two stubber shots and they'll probably be out of the game, likely from system shock).
I only give characters less than 50 if they're intentionally meant to be easy to put out of the game - characters like untrained fighters, or devastatingly powerful psykers who need to be stoppable
somehow.
*Yes, I did mean to write misunderestimation.
Quote from: BrotherLudovic on March 07, 2011, 01:48:47 PM
Edit: I pushed the WS up to 51, the S to 47 and the T to 45. Better?
Well, He's still fairly fragile, but it looks more realistic to the character as written now. Inaddition to being a crazy nutter who likes to charge the enemies, what's his connection to the Inquisitor. A trust friend? a liason with the local bigwigs? A Bullet Catcher? His personal priest and confessor?
He makes sense as a character right now, stats and background (stats could easily be a bit higher, but depends on what power level you play at), but he's pretty vulernable. If he's valuble or close to the inquisitor, maybe some extra protection? A Force Field maybe?
Ok, so I've upped his Strength and Toughness, as well as giving him a refractor field, to make him a bit more durable (in the fluff, it's a gift from Crexus for his loyalty to him).
I've also re-written the story part, including extra background elements. Please tell me what you think of it!
Ludovic
Quote from: BrotherLudovic on March 07, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
Ok, so I've upped his Strength and Toughness, as well as giving him a refractor field, to make him a bit more durable (in the fluff, it's a gift from Crexus for his loyalty to him).
I've also re-written the story part, including extra background elements. Please tell me what you think of it!
Ludovic
Background expansion fits nicely into it, explains everything necessary and sets the character up with room to expand, the Stats and Equipment upgrades now mean I wouldn't feel too guilty taking one of my warband against him, and match what I'd expect of a Preacher with a 5' Chainsaw. Looks good. I look forward to seeing a model
Quote from: Adlan on March 07, 2011, 10:24:25 PM
Background expansion fits nicely into it, explains everything necessary and sets the character up with room to expand, the Stats and Equipment upgrades now mean I wouldn't feel too guilty taking one of my warband against him, and match what I'd expect of a Preacher with a 5' Chainsaw. Looks good. I look forward to seeing a model
Cheers
Adlan :)
I will be expanding his backstory a bit more, to include his relationship with the second character of my warband, but for now, I consider him done. Though if anyone wants to suggest something, go right ahead.
Ludovic