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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Painting and Modelling => Topic started by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 12:18:33 PM

Title: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 12:18:33 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HTEb2eIGdd0/TabVD2i-clI/AAAAAAAAAAU/zN87jO7bt6Y/s640/14042011026.JPG)

Still a work-in-progress, but its going well so far. Sawing the arms up in 3 places to repose it was a bit tricky, but a bit of greenstuff will fix it up nicely. One thingh i never realised about this model is despite all the armour on the front, front behind she appears to have her bum out wearing a thong... May have to change that, or the filthy witches wont take her seriously!

Still not sure about the rest of the Warband yet. Had pondered having her working alone, accompanied by 2-3 Cyber Mastiffs.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Stormgrad on April 14, 2011, 12:36:20 PM
i really like it the pose is brilliant and if the painting matches the standard of your models i saw at the IGT then im sure it will be brilliant
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Herald on April 14, 2011, 12:48:30 PM
While i like the conversion i just wonder whether it would look better with the chainsword under her hands as if she's resting on it. This would seem to fit more with the pose of her legs which seem more 'at rest' than 'fighting stance' to me. It would also, from a game play perspective, make it easier for her to fit through doorways, under walkways, in buildings etc.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 01:15:30 PM
I've actually changed the position of the head now, so that its facing the forward leg, to make it look more like she is advancing, and which also makes the arms look more like they are in that 'samurai holding a Katana upright' pose. I've also changed the head to a converted version of the Enforcer's visored helm, which reinforces the 'faceless executioner' aspect of the model.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Stormgrad on April 14, 2011, 01:17:48 PM
shame on you for not providing new pictures
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Dolnikan on April 14, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
I wonder what it looks like now that those changes have been made, but it does look good so far.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 03:01:23 PM
You'll have to wait a bit, cos ive changed it again, but i cant decide if i like it. Trying to work on a mask type idea similar to Inq Peligia on page 129 of =][= rulebook.

Im also working on an Inquisitor/Interrogator based on the Judge figure.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Stormgrad on April 14, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
im interested to see what you do with the judge as i have my own plans for that model
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Kaled on April 14, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
I like what you've done with the model, and I get what you're going for with the samurai pose but I think the chainsword is too big for it to really work.  Plus as someone else said, it is going to make the model rather unwieldy.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 07:01:57 PM
Ok, i am officially struggling with the head now. My latest (as of 15mins ago) idea is a Sabbat pattern Sororitas style helmet, but im not sure how to make one, ive got half a baneblade shell to use as a base, then i'll need to green the visor shape
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/melissiablackheart/SistersOfBattleHelm.png)

The pic is for those not familiar with the Sabbat pattern helmet.

Quote from: Kaled on April 14, 2011, 06:54:19 PM
I think the chainsword is too big for it to really work.  Plus as someone else said, it is going to make the model rather unwieldy.

The chainsword does look a bit odd from that angle. I'll post some more pics when i've fixed the head issue. Its intended to be used as an Eviscerator, as the character is supposed to be ex-sororitas Repentia who never fulfilled her quest for redemption and cast out of the Order. She now seeks to make amends in the eyes of the Emperor by purging the Galaxy.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Kaled on April 14, 2011, 07:07:12 PM
I guess what I meant was, would anyone really use an eviscerator in the same way they'd use a katana?  Isn't it too bulky and unwieldy for that style of fighting?

The helmet idea sounds good - if I was doing it I'd use Procreate or brownstuff rather than green as they're easier to file, add the visor shape without worrying about the surface being smooth, just getting the shape right, and then file it afterwards.  You could either do the eyes in the first pass or cut them out later.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 14, 2011, 08:06:07 PM
I didnt see the Eviscerator being weilded Katana-style, rather she carries it upright as this is the easiest way to balance a long heavy object. The same way you wouldnt carry a spade* held horizontally from its handle, but carry it upright until it is required for use.

The upright pose also gives it more of a ceremonial pose, as befits weilding such a holy relic.



*A spade possibly isnt the best example, but i hope you get the idea :D
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: DapperAnarchist on April 14, 2011, 08:37:03 PM
I assumed the model "pictured" her not in combat, but in some sort of ceremonial role, perhaps even a parade - though a failed Repentia, she would still be intensely religious.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Dolnikan on April 14, 2011, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: DapperAnarchist on April 14, 2011, 08:37:03 PM
I assumed the model "pictured" her not in combat, but in some sort of ceremonial role, perhaps even a parade - though a failed Repentia, she would still be intensely religious.

I thought the same, she looked like she stood before something or someone important.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Adlan on April 14, 2011, 10:38:53 PM
Quote from: Kaled on April 14, 2011, 07:07:12 PM
I guess what I meant was, would anyone really use an eviscerator in the same way they'd use a katana?  Isn't it too bulky and unwieldy for that style of fighting?

Worrying over much about bulk and weight in 40k weapons would mean everything would be too big and unwieldy. As a Single Edged two handed blade, the stance seems reasonably appropriate to me, and doesn't look unfeasible or unbalanced to me, though Necris is the real expert on steel combat, I've only dabbled.
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: blacknight on April 23, 2011, 11:54:17 AM
Nice looking model.

I can confirm that German style longsword fighting (Talhoffer) uses a guard very similar to this and it is also utilized with longer greatswords as well (approx 6ft total length including handle).

I cant help but think the model needs a little more bulk in the legs as the upper body is very squared and appears bulky while the legs are very slender, not entirely sure what you can do but it does appear a little top heavy (sword just emphasis this too).

Hope it is some help.

Marc/blacknight

Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Aurelius 12 on April 23, 2011, 12:10:47 PM
I second all of what blacknight says. Von Tag (arguably a very powerful guard) uses the weapon in this way, although if anything its held even higher and to the side. (Or if you're a fancy Italian then the blade is held at an angle almost as if it's resting on your shoulder). All that said I'm sure the addition of a motor and chain belt would make them a lot heavier. Although wasn't there some fluff sorting that issue out?

R.E bulk- Right now she looks very like the illustration but a little top heavy. Perhaps just some extra plates on her knees would add a touch more balance?

Other than that, awesome model!
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Ulgavitch on April 23, 2011, 01:28:06 PM
I rather like it. The sword is an obvious gesture of intent - very straightforward and violent looking. It suits a pompous, bombastic Mono-dominant Inquisitor rather well. It's a very nice, characterful model.

In terms of background, have you already written it? Is the blade some sort of sacred sword, gifted by the Church to purify the unclean and impious?
Title: Re: My first Monodominant... introducing Alia Icarus!
Post by: Bloodpact on April 23, 2011, 09:53:45 PM
I have been a bit lax with this model (got distracted by another shiny detective style Inquisitor). The basic helmet shape is complete, and i have started work on the visor. Hope to have it done by the end of the bank holiday weekend.
I also intend to add some kind of loudspeakers coming from a small backpack and extending over her shoulders so she might preach the Word of the Emperor to all who would hear, but especially towards those who would shun it.

As for bulk on the legs, i intend to add a tabard of some kind which will bulk out the lower body. I have also just found the flaming braziers with parchment from the 40k Throne of Judgement, and would quite like to work these in somewhere, although i fear they may have to be carried by a paid of hooded and robed Acolytes.



I intended to use it as an Eviscerator with the 'magic absorption' daemonic weapon ability, representing the blessing of an Imperial Saint warding off the foul magicks of heretics and unbelievers.