The Conclave

Hi

What Inquisitor figures would make good base for converting for heavy weapon?

I have had a rummage around my W40k bitz box to see if I have anything suitable for using for Inquisitor. I dug up some suitable heavy flamer and heavy bolter.

Thanks

James

Hm, I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you want to know which figures would look good holding heavy weapons or would you know which figures HAVE weapons  that could look like heavy weapons?

If you want to know which figures would look good holding heavy weapons, I'd say that a big character always looks good holding a big gun, but Slick Devlan looks a lot like he's fighting of recoil, with his legs a fair bit apart and leaning slightly forwards.

If you need a heavy weapon for a conversion, I'd say the heroic scale of WH40K lends itself very good two being the same weapons in Inquisitor, though maybe with some lengthening here and some enlarging there. Beware though, heavy weapons could probably take out whole warbands if you're not careful!

Hope this helps
//Martin

Andrea have a great looking chap who could work:

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a284/delephont/DN-02-01.jpg)

Trasher- the former- which figures look good holding a heavy weapon.

As I thought I had made clear, I have some heavy weapons from W40k that I want to use in Inquisitor. In particular a heavy flamer for purging the heretics!!

How easy would it be to convert Malicant to hold a heavy weapon? That would fit perfectly as a redemptionist.


Hi Axiom- that is a really cool figure. Who are Andrea? I take it that it is an alternative 54mm figure manufacturer.

Thanks

James

Sgt. Stone looks to me like he could carry off the Heavy Bolter... though have you seen the ][ scale Heavy Bolter that was released? It is HUGE. I have the snout of a Leman Russ hull HB in my bits box, and its not much bigger than Artemis's bolter. It could be used as a base for a HB (perhaps a different pattern - rather than bulkier, long and slender like a mix of Autocannon and Bolter) but a 28mm HB might be a bit small for a 54mm HB... Though Scale Creep might have changed that...

Malicant should be easy enough... In fact, while looking up shots of him to remind myself, I found this! (http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/893/malicant0002da4.jpg) NOT MINE, but its exactly what you're looking for :D

EDIT - if that's a 28mm Heavy Flamer, I take back my worries about scale! Just stretch it like that, and you're fine... that thing is absurd...

I have one of the Inquisitor heavy bolters, it looks terrible to be honest, far too thin (a necessity of practically attaching it to a model, but completely unlike any other heavy bolter in the setting)

Andrea make 54mm miniatures among other things. their sci-fi range is a bit limited but their models are fantastic (if a bit expensive)

Thanks DapperAnarchist - that is exactly what I was thinking about. Not sure how much work I would need to do to get right arms but that is what i was aiming for.

The weapons I dug out from my W40k bitz box were from vehicle sprue and from Defiler. So they are slightly bigger than the normal infantry carried heavy weapons. So should just about be big enough for Inquisitor.

Charax- will give Andrea a look- thanks.

Quote from: wargame_insomniac on July 20, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
The weapons I dug out from my W40k bitz box were from vehicle sprue and from Defiler. So they are slightly bigger than the normal infantry carried heavy weapons. So should just about be big enough for Inquisitor.

Even so they still won't be big enough to be heavy weapons in Inquisitor. You'll need to add plasticard, greenstuff and other 40k bits to extend them. For example I used a 40k incinerator (which is bigger than a normal flamer in 40k) but in Inquisitor it is only the right size to be a hand flamer. So a Heavy flamer in 40k could only really be used as a flamer and even then I reckon it would need some extending.

Aside from that Inquisitor isn't really the best game for heavy weapons. As most people on the Conclave will tell you a bolter, let alone a heavy bolter is destructive enough. If you have a heavy weapon armed character then your games will have a tendency to be very bloody and short, unless you add significant negatives to the character.

I'm not saying don't go for a heavy weapon if you want one, just consider the impact it will have on your games.

To be honest I would be happy enough to use them as variant pattern boltguns or flamers.  I just like the idea of a Redemptionist wielding a flamer burninating the foes of the Emperor. I loved the picture that was posted with Malicant and I would like to do something similar.

Thanks for the feedback.

James

I have a file named 2002p95-109 Abomination (Battle Report 3).pdf in a folder named 2002_Annual_Scans which I probably got from MarcoSkoll. In this file there's pictures of a character called Cultist Zhenkang who is based on Malicant who is carrying a big gun. Not sure I'm allowed to post the pictures but they were also in a WD, good luck finding this :)

Bottomline: I think Malicant as a base would look great with a big gun.

EDIT: typing mistake...

Quote from: Charax on July 20, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
Andrea make 54mm miniatures among other things. their sci-fi range is a bit limited but their models are fantastic (if a bit expensive)

^what I would have said if I'd been quicker on the reply. I have one or two Andrea figures and the quality is well worth the price in my view. Yet to get any from the (small) sci fi range though

Thanks Trasher- I know the figure you mean as i have my Annual 2002 to hand. I did nt realise that Cultist Zhenkang was based on Malicant. That helps.

Cheers

James

Quote from: DapperAnarchist on July 20, 2011, 10:12:45 PM
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/893/malicant0002da4.jpg) NOT MINE

Heh. This picture looks familiar... That's the WIP picture of Pyrekeeper Silas that I put up on Warseer ages ago. (Link to specific thread: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130491 )

Considering that the pictures and rules for the FINISHED pyrekeeper were the basis for my very first post on the original conclave (back when we used green text on a black background), this is quite a while ago.

Here's a reminder of how he looked when finished:
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2884/pyrekeepersilasjpg.jpg)


Also, just to point out that I didn't add any additional components to his arms to make them fit. Just a little greenstuff to build up his right shoulder. It was, overall, quite an easy conversion in comparison to some of the things I've done since then.

Thanks Ynek. That's a lovely paintjob btw.

What hands did you use?

Thanks

James

Quote from: wargame_insomniac on July 24, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
Thanks Ynek. That's a lovely paintjob btw.

What hands did you use?

Thanks

James

Heh. Thank you.
The hands are just Malicant's hands with the wrists reposed.

Quote from: Ynek on July 24, 2011, 06:14:18 PM

Quote from: wargame_insomniac on July 24, 2011, 02:03:41 PM
Thanks Ynek. That's a lovely paintjob btw.

What hands did you use?

Thanks

James

Heh. Thank you.
The hands are just Malicant's hands with the wrists reposed.

You must have been careful cutting off the Eviscerator then. Given how rare they are I would be worried about damaging it.

Thanks

James

Quote from: wargame_insomniac on July 24, 2011, 07:22:23 PM
You must have been careful cutting off the Eviscerator then. Given how rare they are I would be worried about damaging it.

Actually, the only reason I bought the model at all was because I needed an eviscerator to finish off my kroot master shaper on knarlock. If I recall correctly, I just attacked it with a pair of hobby clippers to liberate the hands from the weapon.

Also, Malicant isn't particularly rare. He's still in production by GW, as far as I'm aware...

Well i have tried to bid on a couple of Malicant auctions and been outbid each time. I have also seen someone selling an Inquisitor scale eviscerator for £15!!

I guess I will just keep trying to pick up a Malicant. I wont need him for my initial warband, but he would be useful to have as an NPC or as part of a future Puritan warband.

Thanks

James

Malicant from the GW site (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat490043a&prodId=prod1110225). Still in production, and comes with free postage.

I'd also observe on this topic that whilst upscaling a 40k weapon on a 1:1 basis to INQ would mean needed a very large version of the weapon, there's a diminution of scale involved.

At 28mm, the weapons need to be over-large to be quickly recognized and to fit with the 40k aesthetic.  At 54mm, the problem doesn't apply.  So a lot of 40k weapons can be used almost "as is" at 54mm.  I've used chainswords, power axes, stub revolvers, stub automatics and plasma pistols straight from the 28mm range on 54mm models and it looks fine.  I've used boltguns as autogun carbines and bolt pistols as hand cannons.

The 54mm heavy bolter isn't a bad piece (I think its width is entirely appropriate for 54mm), but it is quite work-intensive to fit to a 54mm character in some cases.

R.

Thanks- thats good to know. I have quite a wide selection of W40k bits but currently a limited selction of 54mm scale bits.

The heavy bolter I had been thinking of using came from vehicle sprue so is quite big. I think it is too big to be a 54mm scale boltgun. It might be big enough to be a 54mm scale heavy bolter.

But I have decided that I would prefer a flamer/heavy flamer over a heavy bolter. I am trying to limit the number of bolt weapons on my characters (at the moment I don't have any) and I am wanting a flamer as it will fit better with character I have in mind. I want to use bits from the Malicant model to make an NPC that might in time become part of a puritan warband. I want at least one character that I can say "Burn heretic, burn" as i am shooting!!

Thanks

James

Quote from: precinctomega on July 27, 2011, 01:51:17 PMI'd also observe on this topic that whilst upscaling a 40k weapon on a 1:1 basis to INQ would mean needed a very large version of the weapon, there's a diminution of scale involved.

True, and particularly so for the less "chunky" proportions of most other 54mm manufacturers.

For example, my Battle Sister would have looked ridiculous if I'd tried to use Artemis' bolter on her, but the FW Phobos worked brilliantly. Okay, it is slightly daft that's it's basically the same in the rules as the small tank gun that Artemis is carrying, but that's at least partially artistic licence.

Maybe you can use the FW Phobos as a bolt carbine? From looking at the rulebook it is marginally smaller than standard boltgun.

Cheers

James

No, I intend to use it as a Godwyn-Deaz bolter. It's in scale with the model, even if it's not in scale with what Artemis is carrying.

This is my version of malicant with a flamer. Going to be a techpriest when finished.


Front
(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt177/steyates/DSC_1492.jpg)

Back
(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt177/steyates/DSC_1493.jpg)

The Flamer is from a killer kan.

Looks good Cortez.

Thanks for sharing

James