The Conclave

I was thinking about the Chronicles of the Carthaxian Conclave thread and wondered if we should recreate it as a wiki. That way different characters / campaigns/ events etc could all have their own pages which could be hyper-linked rather than all just being in one long thread.  People could post characters and profiles on there too if they so fancied. Also people could also use it to post the adventures of their characters in their own campaigns as well as what happens when they come together at Conclave events and the two could still be separated

The other thing I thought we could put on there are guides to Inquisitor, creating characters, running campaigns etc.

I'd looked at wikispaces as a possible place to host this, but before going any further I thought I'd see if anyone else thinks it's a good idea...

- Dave

I like it - I already have  a Google Sites site for my little subsector, which, once I do some gaming, will be evolved.

I was actually wondering about this some time ago. It is starting to reach a scale where it would benefit from all the hyperlinking and extra depth a wiki could offer.

If we were really going into such things, then we could also start building up an official history, which is an area where the sector is somewhat lacking - nothing too rigid as to stop people adding to it, but at least addressing the basics of Carthax Sector history through big events like the Horus Heresy and Age of Apostasy.

I'd certainly suggest keeping the thread for new big announcements relating to events and such though.

I'm very game for this, I think it's a brilliant idea.

In regards to an official history, I think that anything written on the 'history' section would be official enough for me. People can change, amend and add little bits here and there, and anyway, there's the 'official' history, and what actually happened ;)

I'd certainly contribute my various planets, gribblies, heroes and villains to the wiki, it'd be a great way of interweaving everything.

Great Idea, I tried using a blog, but it sort of died in my mind.

Okay, watch this space - I have a day off tomorrow so will look at setting this up in between starting work on yet another Blood Bowl team* and visiting the dentist.

* I'm sure I'll get back to Inquisitor models soon, I have a few ideas that are crying out to be made into models.

It's rough, and I haven't really uploaded any proper content, but this is the kind of thing I was thinking of;
http://carthax.wikispaces.com/

A proper logo is in the works, and I'll start copying over content from various places as I find time.  In the meantime feel free to join up and start posting stuff.  I'll probably approach a couple of people to help oversee the site and keep things organised but I'm keen to have as many people as possible contribute.  As with the 'Chronicles' thread, please don't worry too much about inconsistencies and contradictions - remember the golden rule EYHBTIAL.

Boom, signed up. Apparently I've got to wait for my request for membership has been accepted or something?

What kind of things are we looking for here? It's very bare bones atm, and I don't really know what kind of format anything is going to be in. Should I just write things here and there until we have a rough idea of formatting, when everything can be done at once?

So our own conclave-approved version of Nexus Hive then? Sounds like a good idea, so long as people are sensible and can cross-reference properly.

Well, I'd consider Inquisitor players to be the most sensible out of any gamers, it's a fair prerequisite for the game! I'm rubbish at cross-referencing, but there's always time to learn, and I have plenty to contribute, even if it's crap.

I think that the best thing to do is for people to post whatever they see fit and we can look at rearranging it all if necessary. Campaigns, characters, background, fiction would all be valid things to post. I'll post the FAQs I wrote about the game on there, but if people want to add to them or to add pages on modelling, gaming, getting started etc then that would be good too. I just threw up some sections as a starting point - feel free to suggest others or to suggest a completely different structure if you have a better idea.

As for formatting, some templates would be good so if anyone has any suggestions in that regard then let me know.

Would you included my work done on the Wilderwest?

I've never used wikispaces before, so don't know anything about their template setup off-hand.

I did think of something extra for the left nav bar though, to go alongside Imperial Institutions. "Rogues Gallery" is the current name of the page, intended for organisations and people that while probably breaking laws or whatever, are still essentially Imperial and not "threats" as such. Such as arms smugglers, rogue traders, criminal gangs, etc.

Quote from: Macabre on September 29, 2011, 10:40:31 PM
Would you included my work done on the Wilderwest?

Please feel free to add whatever you want. Anything people create that adds to the sector  (or to a neighbouring sector), or is useful to people who want to know more about the game is valid.

Quote from: Heroka Vendile on September 29, 2011, 10:43:15 PM
I did think of something extra for the left nav bar though, to go alongside Imperial Institutions. "Rogues Gallery" is the current name of the page, intended for organisations and people that while probably breaking laws or whatever, are still essentially Imperial and not "threats" as such. Such as arms smugglers, rogue traders, criminal gangs, etc.

I've added that to the menu. As people add pages I'll keep reassessing what goes on that menu.

Can we have a subsector section? For those who want to be within Carthax, but not stepping on too many toes

Could I perhaps suggest that the "Notable Events" section is dated?

Obviously in an appropriately in character fashion (so the recent Summer Conclave would be Septimus 2nd M42.011 or something), but it would prove useful in piecing it all together if the events were at least in order.

Sub-sectors and dates are both very good ideas.

This is exactly the kick up the arse I've been needing to finish the summer conclave write up!

I had a quick browse (& signed up :-)).. Great idea! I'm often too preoccupied to hunt thru carthax stuff here :-S

Personally i'd keep the whole thing in character; this would work alongside the rule/ hobby-heavy Conclave?

I think we can be a bit flexible about exactly how in character individual parts may be.

Obviously stuff relating to playing the game would be a bit too weird if that was in character!
We also have to be considerate that, although I admit I haven't yet tried it, using headings like +++FORMER HISTORY+++ would probably look pretty bad on a page's list of contents with that all-caps and extra punctuation.

Although I did go a bit like that when trying to add brief summaries to the notable events page. On which note, someone who was actually at the events I wasn't will need to deal with that nasty data corruption error. Can't think why it's only the ones I wasn't at which got corrupted.

On other things to do, given it's also a general Inquisitor wiki, I guess I should probably add a page relating to the Skoll Archive at some point.

I guess this wiki would be the best place to put in all the Conclave-accepted special abilities and weapons?

I don't see why we can't add sections for such things...

Right; registered and added Zophar/Sarthuul as a page. I've referenced the election of Lord Calleia in the article - i would assume that will be getting a page of its own? (unless it already has one, in which case, disregard what i just said!) If it doesn't exist, then when it does, i'll link across to it, and if it already exists, if someone points me in the right direction, i'll make a link.

Also, should just add; great idea, Dave. i think something like this could be really useful in helping make the residents of the carthax sector feel even more like an interlinked community, whilst simultaneously making it more accessible to outsiders.

I've uploaded most, if not all, of my posts from the Carthaxian Conclave thread - I'll leave it up to other people as to how much of their stuff they want to transfer over.

I've added a few characters and I see other people have done so as well, which is great.  I haven't posted stats for my characters, but if people want to do that then I have no problem with the idea.

Also, I've had another go at the logo - it's looking much better than that temporary one...

Well I've started up a small page about special abilities here (http://carthax.wikispaces.com/Special+Abilities) and wrote a small bit about the Ready Reckoner, if anybody has any of their own special abilities they'd like to add to the list, please feel free to do so!

It'd be good to get the large majority of all generic special rules used by the 'Clave down in one place, as I imagine lots of people have similar rules under different names. It would save a lot of hassle at gatherings if people have at least heard of these rules when they're used by other people.

Obviously character-specific special rules aren't really needed, as it's just the general anyone-can-use-them rules I'm after here. I might see if I can find that thread in the Rules forum and borrow some of them...

*pre-post edit* Kaled got in before me there - I like the logo! I will be uploading pictures of my characters when I get back to uni so I can take some decent snaps of them and write a bit of their backstory. I think in regards to stats, I'm likely to only include stats for characters that have interesting statlines or special rules, I certainly won't be posting stats for regulars at conclave gatherings! They all have an achilles heel, but you'll have to find that out for yourselves :P

*post-post edit* Kudos to Aurelius, Zakkeg, PO and Spanielbear for your input! I've raided archives so you can get cited for your work here, rather than cluttering up the wiki.

Argh! Clash!

Tried writing a summary of the Succession, only to find it was mixed in with an attempt Kaled had apparently beaten me to.

Well, I've taken the relevant bits out of what I did and hidden them in amongst the rest. Not hugely pretty, but it plugs a couple of holes until someone with more time than me can make it prettier.

Personally, I see no problem with multiple conflicting accounts - 1) this is Inquisitor 2) this is the Conclave and 3) Everything You Have Been Told Is A Lie.

No, that's not the problem. We'd written the same thing in different ways.

It's not a big deal. Anyway, I need to go to the DIY now, so ta-ra!

Wilderwest added to subsectors category.

As is Keltani - I'll follow Macabre by adding a map when I find where its lurking on one of the various hard drives around this room, but will leave the rest until I start actually doing some proper gaming

Signed up. Could I have a page for my velterax sector and subsectors.

Sure, just add a link under 'Neighbouring Sectors' and then create whatever you need.

It would seem fair enough. I've dropped it into the Neighbouring Sectors page, this link (http://carthax.wikispaces.com/Velterax+Sector) should lead you to a blank page you can start working on.

EDIT: DAMMIT! NINJA'D BY LESS THAN A GORRAM SECOND!

Thanks, will mainly be the history chunks from my blog with other detail added infrequently

Before it comes to utter confusion and before we have too many pages to shift around and redirect, I'm wondering about page naming convention.

Firstly, should page addresses include a character's title(s), or should it be just their actual name? I'm talking about the difference between say "Inquisitor Marco Skoll" or  just "Marco Skoll".

The thing is, we should have a fixed practice, and while nearly every character has a name, not all have titles (and those that do often have odd ones, don't always use them or have several), so

Second,  extra names? "Marco Skoll" or "Marco Robert Skoll"?

A simple practice would be just a simple forename/surname system, unless there's a particular exception, but I'm fairly sure people will have objections.
Bear in mind, I'm not talking about page headers - those can certainly render a character's name as desired, and common variants could certainly be set up as redirect pages, but we should have some convention for actual page addresses.

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Also, how do we handle Kaede Mack?

A separate page for each Kaede begs the question of how you identify each individual page - numbering them sort of seems wrong, as "Kaede Mack #1" would be easy to misconstrue as the real McCoy.

And one page for all of them would just be HUGGGGGGGEEEEEE after a while.

Or do we just put a Kaede Mack page, explain what Kaede Mack is about, then not give any individual information for any of them? Probably reasonably characterful, as it's probably nearly impossible to track down a specific Kaede reliably, but not exactly very informative for readers?

The best idea I can currently think of is a central Kaede Mack page, then separate pages for each that include the owner's name in the address - so perhaps "Kaede Mack (Marco Skoll character)", breaking it down numerically for players with more than one - which will help readers track down the right Kaede based on their associated player (pictures will be a must).
It's not entirely in character, but we have to make concessions somewhere...

How about a single Kaede Mack page, with an in-character intro "Kaede Mack is a known heretic, however it is assumed he must  infact several people etc etc" then individual Kaede Macks one after the other, first come first served?

Like I said, that'd get pretty huge, particularly if people want to add any depth to their stuff.

It might be reasonable to have a brief summary and a photo of each on the central page, but I'd certainly want to have a structure to keep the main Kaede Mack page slightly neater than a total wall of text.

First name last name would seem like the best option for naming pages, but I know I haven't always done that...

Why not start out with all of the Kaede Mack's on one page then start splitting them off if it gets too big? How many have we got at the moment? Is it really at the stage where the page would be huge?

I'm not sure. It might work, but we'll have to see. Now, a couple of other things. I've been looking at the Wiki settings and two things have come up:

- We have no description in the Wiki Information. I'm not sure to what exact purpose this is put, but I've temporarily put in the following:

QuoteAn information site dedicated to Games Workshop's Inquisitor game, and the "living" Carthax Sector community setting created for it by members of the-conclave.co.uk

- We're on a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 licence at the moment. If we're going to be on Creative Commons, I'd prefer to move it onto a Non-Commercial licence, unless anyone has a reason why we can't or shouldn't?

Also, would it be wise to hide a statement to the effect of "Miniatures design primarily Games Workshop" somewhere on the site?

Quote from: MarcoSkoll on October 01, 2011, 12:09:07 PM
- We're on a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 licence at the moment. If we're going to be on Creative Commons, I'd prefer to move it onto a Non-Commercial licence, unless anyone has a reason why we can't or shouldn't?

Also, would it be wise to hide a statement to the effect of "Miniatures design primarily Games Workshop" somewhere on the site?

Both of those sound fine to me - I'll go check the GW site and make sure our disclaimer matches what they want us to put, and I'll add one for miniatures design too.

Also, we've got 2GB of space so I think we can afford for people to upload their images to the site (assuming they want to) rather than just link them from Photobucket etc.

Of course, if people start uploading a large number of big files I might change my tune on that, but I think there's a 10MB limit per file anyway.

EDIT: D'oh - meant to edit my post rather than double-posting.

If people start uploading 4 megapixel images when a small one would do, they will probably find it deleted and a cross message in their Wikispaces PMs to resize it next time.
It's not just about storage space, it's also site loading. It's likely people will want to access this via mobile internet when they're at events, so we'll want to keep it reasonably bandwidth friendly.

Also, while I've been poking at the back-site stuff, I've written us custom "Join Wiki" and "Permission Denied" pages.

I'll link/embed anyway - every image I post to the Wiki I would be posting here anyway, so why upload it twice?

It'll make keeping backups of the Wiki rather easier if any pictures are hosted there. We'll also get rather fewer broken image links.

I've added a History of the Sector page for those events within the sector that have not had games attached to them, such as the Carthage Massacre

On the note of Carthage, was there ever an official end to the events? I remember it petering out after Koval wandered off, which is a bit of a hole in some of my character backgrounds.

Updating my velterax sector page.

Quote from: Necris on October 01, 2011, 11:19:43 PM
I've added a History of the Sector page for those events within the sector that have not had games attached to them, such as the Carthage Massacre

I've started a discussion on this page as it directly contradicts what is written on the Carthax Sector page and I don't know if that was deliberate. Also, I suggest we name this History page into a timeline with (at least rough) dates for each event. Or perhaps, rather than putting exact dates which would just be difficult and result in a lot of inconsistency, we should create some 'eras' in Carthaxian History much like the eras in the latest 40k rulebook and then order events within each era. One era would be events that happened since we started playing in the sector, the rest would be for the sector's history.

My bad I could not remember if it was dorn or gulliman will edit that

I like the eras idea most of the ones I posted are the present era

Hopefully I've fixed it now

Alrighty, I'm going to start doing as marco suggested - all my page names will be titled 'first name second name', with the full titles of my characters as a header on the actual page itself. Should avoid too much confusion...

Given we've now got a specific timeline page, I think I'd prefer to rename the "Notable Events" page to something like "Inquisition Conclaves", "High Conclaves","Inquisition Investigations" or something similar (maybe including the word "Recent" or "Major"), because otherwise it implies all the other events on the timeline are somehow not notable.

Any comments, complaints or suggestions?

Yup, good idea. I think any of the Conclave gatherings should be named something to set them apart from the other events just because they are 'group' events. I think everything else should be 'notable' events or whatever, just so people who don't go to the Clave gatherings or run campaigns in between have somewhere to put their stories.

Sounds like a good differentiation to make. I'm not sure either would normally fit under the "Carthax Sector" category on the side bar though, so would probably have to get moved to to the "Carthaxian Conclave" category.

So maybe we'd get a side bar like:

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The Carthax Sector
- History of the Sector
- Sub-sectors
- Neighbouring Sectors

The Carthaxian Conclave
Recent History:
- Conclaves (which would be an index of Conclave events)
- Investigations (which would be an index of games outside of the events)
Ordos:
- Ordo Malleus
- Ordo Hereticus
- Ordo Xenos
- Ordos Minoris
- Unaligned Inquisitors
- Cabals & Cells

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Or maybe it could be "High Conclaves" and "Low Conclaves" or any other combination that appeals to you.

Going with the 'Conclaves' idea, we could take the perspective of the forum meet-ups being when Inquisitors report their recent actions, with the games we play dramatising the stories they tell each other.

So the "Conclave of M42.011.5 - Reports on the Cold Trade" would be an IC list of the events from games played at the Summer forum meet 2011.
"Grand Conclave of M42.011.3" would be the IGT '11.
"Conclave of M42.008.3 - Reports on the Grundig Affair"
etc etc

My decimals might be a bit off, I was just going with .3=spring .5=summer, .7=autumn & .0/.9=winter. Alternatively we could put the full date it, ignoring the 1000th's of a year thing that is GW canon.

Also the split between Conclaves (big meets) and Investigations (local games) is something that makes sense, but still makes the local games feel important.

I concur - that sounds good to me. It would be worth adding a paragraph to the top of the Conclaves and Investigations pages to make it clear the distinction between the two.

Well, I've rearranged the page. If there are any complaints it can be further adjusted, but people seemed alright with it, so I just went ahead with it. There's no redirect, as the only page that linked to Notable Events was the side bar, so I just changed that link.

So we didn't have a blank starting page for the Investigations - and I know they're not actually Inquisitor, but they're set in the Carthax Sector - I listed the VOIP Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader games.

Quote from: Heroka Vendile on October 02, 2011, 06:31:26 PMAlternatively we could put the full date it, ignoring the 1000th's of a year thing that is GW canon.

That's what I was doing, swapping out the names of the months with Latin ordinal numbers (So Quartus would be April), as I'm fairly sure I've seen done here and there. It allows us to actually put the correct dates down in a vaguely fluffy manner.

Okay, there'll always be the muppet who thinks "Septimus" through "Decimus" refer to September through December - which is two months out, of course - but you can't help that.

So essentially, months would categorised as something like;

Sanguinius
Dominica
Malcador
Quartus
Dorn
Valdor
Thor
Guilliman
Septimus
Octavius
Novus
Decimus

I've applied to join the wiki, i'l post my character pages when i some time.

Huzzah! It's being fleshed out quite nicely. It's been the excuse I needed to finally write some proper (if a bit shaky ;) ) backgrounds for my major characters.

I don't want to be nitpicky though, but just browsing through I noticed Octavian Lars has added

Quote from: Inquisitor Octavian LarsDionysus Cell -a cell of acolytes under the command of an unknown inquisitor. Currently investigating a xeno race known as the daleks.

To the Cabals & Cells page (http://carthax.wikispaces.com/Cabals+%26+Cells). While I don't have any problem with people adding to the wiki (more people need to add their characters!), I think you might tread on a few toes if you have a Xeno race called 'Daleks' in Inquisitor...

Quite! It's proving a useful opportunity to readdress the background of some of my older characters. Mind you, I should probably be working on the Autumn Conclave, so someone smack me around the head if I'm doing too much to the wiki.

Good fun though, revising some of my older writing and coming up with new quotes. (I'm particularly fond of the page header for Silva Birgen's page.)

Quote from: RobSkib on October 03, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
To the Cabals & Cells page (http://carthax.wikispaces.com/Cabals+%26+Cells). While I don't have any problem with people adding to the wiki (more people need to add their characters!), I think you might tread on a few toes if you have a Xeno race called 'Daleks' in Inquisitor...

I too found that rather jarring. Kinda like someone calling their Inquisitor Darth Vader or their psyker Gandalf. I've nothing against a Dalek inspired race in Inquisitor (or dropping Doctor Who references into Inquisitor for that matter), but 'Daleks' is too recognisable in my opinion. If I was going to borrow names of alien races from Doctor Who (and I probably have done at some point) I'd at least pick an obscure one that hardly anyone will have heard of.

EDIT: But in general I to am really happy with how this is progressing. So far I've just been posting old bits of background that I've written over the last few years but I plan to start adding some new stuff soon.

Sorry,  dionysus cell is an RP that I run at my school club, it includes daleks at the behest of one of my friends (actual DWho daleks).

Maybe just refer to them on the Wiki as something like genetically engineered mutant xenos with mechanical travel machines. Or leave them as Daleks - it's up to you.

Wow! Okay, I've FINALLY written up all my PC's backstories. Maybe now I can get on with actually *painting* something ;)

Renamed as Vervids [codename: thundercrackers] (actual "paradigm" daleks got in through a time vortex to velterax III)

I've joined the party and added write ups for the Antonine Amulets and Grundig Affair campaigns.  Mainly in character exposition, but I think it fits well.  I've tweaked the latter so that it's now entrenched in the Carthax Sector - it was originally in a sector of my own devising, but I think it works better now.

I'll probably add some character bios today as well.

Ruaridh

Not nearly enough people are uploading pictures of the characters they post... ;)

Sorry about that. I really need to fix the paintjobs on both Marco and Silva, then get better pictures. Or in Jax's case, actually finish her model. But I've subbed in her concept art for the meanwhile.

I need to find some pictures of my minis

Okay, so I've started to fill out my characters background.

Looking around the site, we're doing well with character profiles and the like but the sections on the game could do with a boost, so if anyone has any thoughts on any aspect of the game from advice on stats and abilities to discussion of character archetypes then please post them.

It would be good if the Wiki could offer advice for new players and maybe answer some of the common questions. For example, I saw on Warseer earlier someone asking if Death Cult assassins were a good choice for starting players - I already created sections for different archetypes and that's the sort of question I thought we could maybe answer on those pages, as well as maybe ideas for different types of death cultist, what types of warband they'd fit in and so on - i.e. the types of question the rulebook doesn't really offer any help with. Also, maybe we could have a 'Rules clarifications' section for some of the commonly asked questions, such as 'how does injury work?'.

So please, if you have a spare half hour, please take a look at those sections and see if you can think anything to contribute. Also, if you write a good post on that type of thing on a forum somewhere then maybe consider also posting it on the Wiki.

Then might the wiki be a good place to host the beta's for INQRulebook2?

Personally, I'd keep that separate so as not to confuse new players - however if the majority of people (and importantly PrecinctOmega) feel differently, then that's fine.

I've got a lot of spare time on my hands so I'll give the ones I know a little bit about a once-over. I don't really know how good my writing is though, so please feel free to correct anything or tell me it's a pile of plop so I can re-do it.

Just a quick one before I get back to stuff. What about the idea of Conclaver pages?

I'm not thinking any more than associating username/real name, a few quick details and a picture, but it would help people keep track of who the people they'd met on event days were on the forums.
If you wanted to take it a bit further, it could also act as an index of their characters, and list the events the player had been to as well.

If not, then it could be useful to add a "Who am I?" sticky on the forums somewhere, where users post a portrait and their real name. I know I've had cases where not being present when someone says "Hey, I'm X" means I've only worked out who some people were at the events by their models!

I'm not so sure that having 'clavers identities on the wiki is such a good idea, partly for security reasons, but also because those who don't have their identities up there might feel like they are less important for whatever reasons.

I do think its an idea having a thread on the forums however - photo, name, username and 'signature' models, just to kickstart the 'oooh you're THAT guy!' memory cells.

I've just remembered that PrecinctOmega's old site Within-Without-Beyond used to have a page that linked to bits that worked great on 54mm models and was thinking that we could do the same on Carthax. Of course GW stopping their bits service makes getting hold of individual bits more difficult, but it's not impossible and a directory of useful bits would be good inspiration for newcomers and useful for veteran too.

Quote from: Kaled on October 27, 2011, 05:51:15 PMOf course GW stopping their bits service makes getting hold of individual bits more difficult, but it's not impossible and a directory of useful bits would be good inspiration for newcomers and useful for veteran too.

Probably one of many reasons why eBay is moving more citadel miniatures than GW these days :p

could put the manufacturers/supplies list from the P&M up as a page as well

While we're discussing scale, I'm considering whether it would be a good idea to have a page that tries to address the 54mm vs. 28mm issue.

It should definitely be in an unbiased manner that tries to debunk the myths and warn about the pitfalls of either scale, but it's something that comes up on the forums often enough that it's really worth just having a link we can throw up to avoid having to explain the whole thing over and over.

I'm happy to write the first draft of said page.

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To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

Still, that gives me an idea! Is there any real reason a combined 28/54 event couldn't be run?
Okay, the different scales couldn't play on the same tables (although players wouldn't necessarily have to stick to one scale), but that doesn't mean the narratives and scoring couldn't be woven together.
Heck, the way I ran the finale at the Autumn Conclave doesn't even necessarily need tables to be at the same scale if models aren't moving between them!

It'd probably have to be after Molotov's INQvitational (possibly even in 2013), but this community would surely benefit from being less fractured over matters of scale.

Quote from: MarcoSkoll on November 01, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
54mm vs. 28mm issue ... that it splits the players

i'm a fan of bot; hence a few of my characters (and several Standard ones) are in 28mm and 54mm :D

Quote from: MarcoSkoll on November 01, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
I'm happy to write the first draft of said page.

Sounds like a good idea - write a draft and I'm sure we can get it into a form that both halves of the community are happy with.

QuoteStill, that gives me an idea! Is there any real reason a combined 28/54 event couldn't be run?

I don't see any insurmountable issue. The difficulty would be in making it feel like one event rather than two being run at the same time. I've had similar thoughts about the Grand Tournament - no reason that couldn't be done at both scales but I'm not sure we'd get enough attendees for it to be worthwhile doing it at both scales.

Quote from: MarcoSkoll on November 01, 2011, 09:56:21 PM

To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

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To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

Clearly when combining the scales the 28mm minis are just really far away 54mm minis

Quote from: greenstuff_gav on November 01, 2011, 10:13:55 PMI'm a fan of both

I don't doubt that some people are. But for the most part, it's something of a divide.

I was looking on Ammobunker, which has a plentiful Inq28 community - but very little of that carries over here. Even assuming that people didn't care about the other scale (which I think isn't the case - the success of Mol's thread rather disproves that), there's still the potential for discussing rules and background.

Personally, I'd play at 28mm as well if the opportunities provided themselves, but as it is, they haven't.

Quote from: Kaled on November 01, 2011, 10:21:34 PMThe difficulty would be in making it feel like one event rather than two being run at the same time.

I feel that can be handled. Even if it does come across as slightly divided, it'd still be an opportunity to get people who appreciate the same game together for the day.

As far as player numbers, given that Molotov has a reasonable attendance for his INQvitational (although I know a few of those are also 54mm players), I don't think we'd have too much worry if we publicised it in both communities, particularly if a few players came equipped for both scales. It might not work so well for the GT, as that does rely a certain amount on the whole intermixing to make sure that people who vote above and below average sort of cancel out, and you wouldn't really want it to turn into a 28 vs. 54 thing.

Quote from: Necris on November 01, 2011, 10:43:21 PMClearly when combining the scales the 28mm minis are just really far away 54mm minis

Small... Far Away... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25N-4zrk390#t=0m32s)

I've added a new section to Carthax for scenarios and story encounters.  I'm not entirely happy with those names, but basically scenarios are 'bare-bones' sets of set-up conditions and objectives that can be used by almost any warbands on any terrain (e.g. the types of games we often play in the first rounds of something like the Summer Conclave), whereas story encounters are more specific encounters that may require certain character archetypes to be present or need particular terrain or NPCs, and are likely to have much more of a plot element to them and are much more likely to be used as an integral part of an ongoing campaign.

I'm also tempted to add a third section, maybe called something like 'Schemes', for objectives that can be given to just one player.  They could then be combined in games, so the GM might give one player the 'Leave No One Behind' objective of getting all his characters (or their corpses) across the board, and give the other players the 'Treasure Hunt' objective where they have to find something on the board and return it to their deployment zone (or the second player might get the 'Kidnap' objective where he has to capture a member of the opposing warband).

Anyway, please post any scenario / story ideas you have on Carthax.  I've posted a few to get us started and have created a template for us to use to ensure some consistency, but if your idea needs additional headings then feel free to adapt it as necessary.

- Dave

Well, I have applied for membership, and was wondering about planetary data pages. Now I realise that this could easily become over-complicated, but maybe just a few background bits about planets on which campaigns took place (and will take place) would make people more able to visualise the campaign when they're reading the reports.

I've just approved your membership. Feel free to upload information about planets - they should go under the page for the appropriate sub-sector (or sector if it's a planet in a neighbouring sector).

If any of you has applied to the Carthax Wiki as "Cam1229ownz", can you tell me please? I've got a request sitting on the list from a username I don't recognise.

Our new criteria for wiki membership demand that all prospective members are sponsored by three full forum members or one admin... nah, I'm kidding (although that would be cool) - I just want to have heard a "hello" from people first, it'll save us dealing with trolls or spambots.

In any case, I'd welcome people using the message form if they're applying under a less than obvious username and telling me/Kaled who they are on the forums.

Spent a bit of time reading th wiki, and I love what you all post

Just a bit of a query really, can anyone give me a quick rundown of how too use wiki spaces, ive tried in the past and the results were well below average,

Just need it explained in brief

I sent Cam1229ownz a message via Wikispaces the other day - didn't get a reply though...

I couldn't find much for the username - few posts on a Skaven forum, a youtube account with no uploads... nothing to figure out who it might be. But we'll see if we get a response in the next day or two.

@ Knobby2: It's not hugely complex.

Most of it can be done using the heading formatting (Use "Heading 1" for main titles, and go progressively far through the headings for more "nested" sub headings) and putting a "Table of contents" widget at the top of the page.

If the heading formatting doesn't seem to be working, it's probably because the text already has formatting that's overriding it (perhaps from Word or its like). Select the offending text, click on the "Styles" button (next to the underline button), and click the "Clear styles" button on the pop-up window. The text should then take the new formatting.

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One other thing. I know you proposed a unified Inquisitor wiki, Kaled, but even if that's not happening, might we at least want to add a link to the Dalthus wiki to something like the External links section?

Quote from: MarcoSkoll on June 19, 2012, 11:41:58 PM
might we at least want to add a link to the Dalthus wiki to something like the External links section?

Sounds like a good idea.

is it just me or is the wiki not loading?