Do we have capability knowledge on the above tech.
Such a device would be perfect for assassins.
I know that a Talos/jet bikes/raiders would have one.
(I presume the reality of a talos in =I= would be comparable to terminators/dreadnoughts = OTT)
Also Hellions must a fairly small unit but probably too big to carry across a boggy field.
The question is do they have personal models. Do scourges really fly with their wings?
Nathan.
The *Imperium* has personal anti-grav devices. There's no need to go digging around with Alien tech just because they are noted for defying the laws of physics.
It just comes with the usual caveat with Imperial tech that unless you have ironclad ties with the Mechanicus, or it's some kind of recovered/inherited artefact, good luck getting it.
Well it's for a Mandrake. Just so I can have him hide on the ceiling etc.
It should be fine to have a personal version, just don't mention scourges in your backstory, since the new codex, they actually use their wings to fly; they have their bones hollowed out to allow it.
The Eldar had Anti-grav tech long before the birth of Slaanesh and one would therefore have to assume that Scourges probably use a very similar system to Swooping Hawks...
As to having their bones hollowed out... WTF?!?
Assuming even a similar physiology to humans the life expectancy of anyone hollowing out their bones is rather short - bones aren't monolithic constructs which simply provide a scaffold after all...
Better to use a few suspensors to cancel the weight of them...
Eldar bones are a kind of crystal, and, you complain about the hollow bones thing when haemonculi are a more artistic version of dr frankenstein, hollow bones is run of the mill compared to some of the stuff they do
quote from 5th ed codex: Considered the pinnacle of body modification, the metamorphosis from warrior to scourge is a lengthy and painful process. A rich dark eldar may surrender himself to the haemonculi, requesting that his bones be hollowed out by the cold metal drills of a talos, that bands of new muscle be grafted onto his torso, and powerful wings and adrenal dispensers be attached to his shoulders so that he is capable of true flight.
sorry to poke holes in your swooping hawk theory.
Or to put it another way, the Haemonculi are the Dark Eldar version of "A wizard did it".
On the note of the Swooping Hawk thing, bear in mind that Craftworld (and probably Exodite - I forget) technology is reliant on psychomaterials, and the Dark Eldar no longer have the Bonesingers necessary to manipulate them.
I suspect that there's few similarities between Craftworld and Commorrite tech for that reason. (Which is quite a large thing for the Imperium to miss when it fails to differentiate between them. A bit odd, as they do recognise divides in other xeno cultures).
Quote from: MarcoSkoll on November 22, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
A bit odd, as they do recognise divides in other xeno cultures).
Well, bear in mind that the Dark Eldar are hardly the most numerous race in the 40k canon. Their entire population is limited to that of a single city. (Admittedly, a very large city, but it's still small enough to fit comfortably inside the webway.) Therefore, the number of attacks performed by the Dark Eldar in relation to those performed by the craftworld Eldar (and to a lesser extent, corsairs, exodites and outcasts,) will be tiny. Like a drop in the ocean. Therefore, many in the Imperium will probably consider the differences between them to simply be the difference between different craftworlds, or other intra-faction divides.
The Eldar are recognised just as much from the eerie, graceful way that they move and fight as anything else. Factor in both faction's preference for out-of-nowhere hit-and-run attacks, both faction's excessive use of anti-gravity skimmers, and with such a wide variation between the visual appearances of the various Eldar aspects, it's probably not a big stretch to imagine that the Dark Eldar would simply be swept under the "Eldar rug."
On an academic level, genetic examination of samples taken from dead Dark Eldar would likely come up with a result almost indistinguishable from 'normal' Eldar, as the two separate factions have not had sufficient time to diverge into separate species. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of generations for that kind of genetic change to occur, and given the length of time of Eldar generations, the likelihood of them being detectably different from one another is slim.
When you consider all of the similarities between these two Eldar factions from the point of view of an outside observer, it's not too hard to imagine that they would be mistaken for being one and the same. Most Imperial scholars will not be privy to knowledge about the birth of Slaanesh or the fall of the Eldar. The only way for the Imperium to know about these events is because the Eldar decided to tell a few individuals (Inquisitor Kryptmann being just one of them), and those few individuals are probably hardly the sort to go spreading such proscribed knowledge around. Therefore, the particular historic events that led to the divide between the Eldar and their decadent kin are unlikely to be understood or even known about by most in the Imperium.
Quote from: MarcoSkoll on November 22, 2011, 10:46:56 PM
On the note of the Swooping Hawk thing, bear in mind that Craftworld (and probably Exodite - I forget) technology is reliant on psychomaterials, and the Dark Eldar no longer have the Bonesingers necessary to manipulate them.
While a lack of Bonesingers does not necessarily mean a lack of psychoreactive materials (Wraithbone is only one of the many Eldar use) and although knowing the principals should make it fairly straightforward to develop material substitutions I take your point and conceed that my Dark Eldar fluff knowledge is rather out of date.
So do splinter weapons still work in the same way (gravatic anomolies) as shuriken weapons? If so there's your man-portable gravatic anomoly and a good place to start for personal antigrav...
Quote from: InquisitorHeidfeld on November 23, 2011, 01:36:33 PM
So do splinter weapons still work in the same way?
As I recall, a splinter weapon operates by using magneto-electric impulses to shatter a crystal made from neurotoxins, which are then propelled down the barrel by the same magneto-electric impulse in a manner not too different from the likes of a coilgun.
They operate on the principle of magnetism and electrostatic motion, rather than gravitic manipulation... And if General relativity is to be believed, that should make them more powerful weapons, as gravity is a much weaker force than magnetism.
Hiedfield, were you thinking of the dark matter weapons like the dark lance/blaster.
Note - I've not seen the new codex.