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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Painting and Modelling => Topic started by: Myriad on November 16, 2009, 01:55:05 AM

Title: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 16, 2009, 01:55:05 AM
My first new model in a while (shortly to be followed by the rest of the eversor which, however, requires a lot of work to make it less scary).  

Still needs painting, and I'm not entirely happy with the left arm - the angle of the elbow's a problem.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwVGXfN-teI/AAAAAAAAAqs/ztqv53ctXHA/s400/DSCF3831.JPG)(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwVGYGwzDGI/AAAAAAAAAqw/FrFWM0FN6Ak/s400/DSCF3833.JPG)

Modified to include better photos.  Tutorial found & natural light caught  :).

The head is the eldar ranger spare, and I've just noticed that my puritan witchhunter is sporting a runic eldar earring.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Hadriel Caine on November 16, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
this looks promising. from what I can make out the pose looks cool and the use of parts (Bounty hunter eversor and slicks head?) is nice. The photos are pretty terrible though...

Try taking photos in natural light with a sheet of white paper as the background and use the macro function on your camera (looks like a flower).

If you do a search I seem to remember Marco Skoll did a pretty good tutorial on taking good pictures of miniatures somewhere...

Adam
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 16, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Adam Cunis on November 16, 2009, 11:44:14 AMIf you do a search I seem to remember Marco Skoll did a pretty good tutorial on taking good pictures of miniatures somewhere...
http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=201.0
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Ynek on November 17, 2009, 08:53:58 AM
He's off to a very good start. I never thought that components from the eversor assassin would fit in so well with the rest of the range. :D
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 19, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
Emperors stabbed thumbs!  The eversor model was never meant to be parted from it's head, but I managed it in the end.  Still alot to do - the left arm is the easiest part to use elsewhere by a long way.

I've started painting Lok, and updated the photos.

No further progress on Lok, but I've started work on the companion piece - a laboriously beatified eversor model.
I'm quite pleased with the overall result.  Obviously he neds guns - I'm thinking a pistol in his boot and a grenade launcher strapped to the left arm, which I'm thinking would be fun in game.

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwiUknMXiII/AAAAAAAAArw/BJoCh0x7__Q/s400/Ra%27Ven.JPG)(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwiUlpsHN1I/AAAAAAAAAr0/4Sg5DW5OdIA/s400/Ra%27Ven-rear.JPG)
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on November 22, 2009, 02:43:14 AM
Nice use of the evesor model, I like the power shortsword a lot. It has never occured to me that a 40k sword would work so well.

I'd say remove the ariel, as it make the model look too much like the evesor, and the left hand is just begging to be replaced with one holding a gun.

Is that a Tau symbol on his chest? What's the story behind that?
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Holiad on November 22, 2009, 11:54:09 AM
Nice tip on the ariel.  The left hand will at some point hold a gun.

That is a tau symbol.  The concept, originally suggested by Robey, is to have a former tau mercenary who is now 'reformed' and working for the inquisition (or maybe the hrud).  It needs fleshing out, but I thought the armour could be part 'borrowed' from his erstwhile employers.  And, of course, the skull had to go  :).
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on November 22, 2009, 02:41:03 PM
I'd have trhought that if he abandoned the tau he would remove the symbol. Keeping it will make him certainly unpopular and probably dead in loyalist circles. Maybe a Tau antennia could hint at the origin of the suit, without displaying xenos allegience.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 22, 2009, 04:10:47 PM
Agreed.

Tau armour, maybe. Tau symbols, no - many Inquisitors would practically shoot him on sight for bearing such a visibly non-imperial symbol.

Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 22, 2009, 11:57:33 PM
I rather like the tau symbol though  :'(

Maybe he'll just have to be an outlaw - it isn't as if his current employer (Lok) uses official channels these days.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Holiad on November 23, 2009, 12:33:44 AM
Point worth considering, the implications of openly wearing a Tau symbol can work two ways, depending on who he's dealing with. In some situations, it could be useful to be mistaken for a mercenary in Tau employ.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Hadriel Caine on November 23, 2009, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: Myriad on November 19, 2009, 01:31:26 PM
Emperors stabbed thumbs!

and now I have cereal all over my bedsheets. thanks man. very very amusing.

new model looks nice. I am inclined to agree with Marco et al about the Tau symbol but it would be perfectly possible to justify it through character background.

Adam
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on November 23, 2009, 12:49:54 PM
I suppose he could wear the standard robe (with hood), or a trench coat or a poncho over the symbol when he isn't trying to kill everyone but has to be subtle.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Kaled on November 24, 2009, 06:08:43 PM
Quote from: Inquisitor Cade on November 22, 2009, 02:43:14 AM
It has never occured to me that a 40k sword would work so well.
Isn't it just the one from the Everor model?  (Which may well be based on a 40k one, I can't find mine to compare.)

I don't have a problem with the Tau symbol, it looks good.  Although if he's working with the Inquisition rather than the Hrud I'd be tempted to add a purity seal to his chest.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on November 24, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
QuoteIsn't it just the one from the Everor model?

Is it? Well I look all manner of foolish now. It occurs to me from looking at that model that a 40k powersword might be a good fit for a shortsword.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Kaled on November 24, 2009, 07:10:31 PM
Quote from: Inquisitor Cade on November 24, 2009, 07:03:47 PM
It occurs to me from looking at that model that a 40k powersword might be a good fit for a shortsword.
I used a (slightly altered) 40k powersword as a shortsword on my Jessamyn Rae (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/jessamyn.jpg) model (who will be reworked at some point due to the fact I've never been happy with how she turned out).  Also, I believe Kierkegaard has successfully used 28mm marine powerswords as powerswords on some of his 54mm characters.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: kierkegaard on November 24, 2009, 07:36:48 PM
Well Dave, I have two models that use 40K powerswords (this guy (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/ratbag23/BountyHunter1.jpg) and this woman. (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/ratbag23/Crusader1.jpg)) I also used the Eversor's powersword on this model, (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/ratbag23/SpecialOperative1.jpg) and it is almost exactly the same size as the 40K one.

Dave and I have both also used the Eversor's Neuro Gauntlet on other models (my Skitarius (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/ratbag23/SkitariusCaptain1.jpg) and Dave's Magos (http://kaled100.atspace.com/magos.JPG).)

Nice work on both models by the way Myriad. I particularly like the Eversor conversion with the Bounty Hunter head.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 24, 2009, 11:57:14 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  It is indeed the sword the eversor came with, although my brother is gradually working his way through a pile of spare swords from his 40K chaos space marines.

Lok's about half painted now, but I'm a bit concerned he isn't scary enough;

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwxaPaSU2gI/AAAAAAAAAtU/VBGGqQlnllQ/s400/Lok_Front_flash.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SwxaQOsmBbI/AAAAAAAAAtY/PWIYinwA2SM/s400/Lok_Back_flash.JPG)
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: theemperorswill on November 25, 2009, 09:46:56 AM
i agree. think it might be the baby blue on his coat that gives that impression?
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Adlan on November 25, 2009, 12:51:43 PM
I would suggest some dark washes would bring down the jollity nicely.

Mske the claw dark, with maybe some bright highlights (blood mayhap) and it should be a focus of the model.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Kaled on November 25, 2009, 04:01:56 PM
I agree - a couple of washes on the blue, a skull (or some similar symbol) on a dark coloured loincloth, and a scary black and metallic claw with some blood on, and he should look pretty scary.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 26, 2009, 11:52:25 PM
Thanks for the tips.  Just the claw to go now, and a couple of washes has him looking a bit more sinister.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sw8MSp7OZiI/AAAAAAAAAu4/Z48xfkHZiwg/s400/Lok_flowers%20%281%29.JPG)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sw8MT5cD7zI/AAAAAAAAAu8/DF7iJpSekpk/s400/Lok_flowers.JPG)
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: theemperorswill on November 27, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
far better
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Hadriel Caine on November 27, 2009, 06:56:01 PM
nicely toned down.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 28, 2009, 07:23:21 PM
Finished Lok - now even darker  :)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SxF28WVVW2I/AAAAAAAAAwM/wRi40nlG58M/s800/Lok_front_final.JPG)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/SxF29zRdikI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/mxgAEPWFHMc/s800/Lok_rear_final.JPG)
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Adlan on November 29, 2009, 10:16:15 AM
thats the stuff. Very nice.

One small gripe would be the back his his neck needs darkening, but that's much more visible in photo's than it will be IRL.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on November 29, 2009, 01:59:58 PM
Good spot.  I hadn't noticed that white patch at all - too much work by artificial light I guess, not that there's much choice in Yorkshire at this time of year  :).
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Molotov on November 29, 2009, 04:23:22 PM
Ah! Big pictures!

Now I can see the detail, I'm struck by the scar tissue on his face, which looks especially effective. The palette and the distribution of colours is striking, I think. He's shaping up to be a nice model!
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Myriad on December 07, 2009, 11:56:39 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys.  Now I just need character sheets.  And to finish the other guy.  By Saturday.

I've just about finished building the mercenary now though.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sx2Leqqld3I/AAAAAAAAA4U/iXtz2HWj4nc/s800/Raa%27Venn%20%281%29.JPG)(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sx2Lfgz_-dI/AAAAAAAAA4Y/MM0w5lB9xlw/s800/Raa%27Venn.JPG)

Ever had a model you just kept tinkering with?  I think it's partly because I didn't have much of an idea what the model would look like to start with, just a spare eversor body, but I kept finding bits of detail to change.  I went with a tau burst cannon for the grenade launcher, partly to maintain the theme but mostly due to being able to get the parts cheaply.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on December 08, 2009, 01:00:27 AM
I still like the model, but I think that huge gun detracts from the pose. It also looks very unweildy. I'd suggest trimming it down as much as possible. I'm not convinced by the autocannon ammo feed either.
That's an interesting place for a pistol, won't it fin on his waist/leg/boot?

The colours there look good.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Holiad on December 09, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
And done.  The gun isn't great, but I'm done modifying this guy, at least for the moment.  I did try to fit the sidearm anywhere else, but without any success  - the more I looked at the eversor model, the more I found things to dislike about it.

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sx_A8HYlUdI/AAAAAAAABEU/xAlYmnVoCpw/s400/Ra%27Venn_Fin.JPG)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_orTPwyJEoiY/Sx_A9v6mKuI/AAAAAAAABEc/vCUt8TFqkFU/s400/Ra%27Venn_Fin%20%281%29.JPG)
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: Kaled on December 09, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
The Eversor model is far from perfect, but although I'm not keen on the gun, I think you've created an interesting looking character despite the flaws of the base model. I rather like where you've put the holster - not sure how practical it is, but it looks good on the model.
Title: Re: Witchhunter Lok
Post by: abhorsen950 on December 09, 2009, 04:39:37 PM
Looks cool to me
Gun looks pretty crazy
but a nice out come.

Steve