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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Painting and Modelling => Topic started by: Sneak on November 29, 2009, 07:36:19 PM

Title: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Sneak on November 29, 2009, 07:36:19 PM
Hey hey.

I have a couple of questions on the models Im working out for my new warband. Firstly, apart from the big one on her chest, are there any particularly prominent =][= signs on her that will be difficult to file down.

For her chest I plan on GSing a bigger chest plate rather than having those silly madonna tits on her so Im not too worried about the chest one.

My main question is this; I want to give her a nice long flintlock or maybe bolt action rifle, I was thinking something like this flintlock (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Stealth_team_leader/S273b.jpg) or this bolt action (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b185/Stealth_team_leader/Swedish_Mauser_65_right.jpg)

I planned on filing down her force halberd and using that as a basis for the barrel and GS/card the rest of the gun on.

I was wondering if anyone had done anything similar and had any advice on how to go about the whole process. I have a vague idea what Im going to do but anyone with experience with a similar project would be very useful.

Thanks all
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 29, 2009, 11:53:53 PM
I take it we're talking about the daemon huntress model, but you haven't actually said so.

From what I recall of my own conversions, no, you're not beset by a horde of hard to remove Inq symbols.

... As far as the breasts, it's reasonably easy to make them rather less "Madonna". Take Kaled's Lillith Polanski model (http://kaled100.atspace.com/lillith.JPG) for an example - I did the same thing when I converted the model, not being a fan of the odd analogues it drew.
If you do want to change it outright, fine, but I'd advise against making the chest plate larger - it's all too easy to make female models look ridiculously top heavy that way.

Next, for the rifle, I advise simply drilling the halberd out and starting over with brass rod or tube - it'll be a nightmare to file the halberd down smoothly, so you'd save yourself one hell of a lot of swearing by just using brass tube.
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Hadriel Caine on November 30, 2009, 12:10:40 AM
try out this gun: http://www.historexagents.com/shop/hxproductdetail.php?ProductCode=S4A4

in terms of inquisitor symbols marco is right. there aren't too many. I, too, would be disinclined to make the chest plate any larger.
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Ynek on November 30, 2009, 12:22:26 AM
The easiest way to make a rifle is to use plasticard / styrene sheet and some sort of thin plastic tube. For years, I used the inner tubes from the middle of cotton buds / Q-tips.

Plasticard/styrene sheet is relatively inexpensive and can be widely bought on eBay. I recommend using 1mm plasticard for guns, and making the gun from three layers of plastic.

Here are some guns that I made using this method to give you an idea of what I mean...

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4053/picture190.jpg)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/917/picture191n.jpg)(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/5047/picture192o.jpg)(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/979/picture193x.jpg)
(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5952/picture194.jpg)
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Sneak on November 30, 2009, 09:21:18 AM
Hah yes I meant the demon huntress... I think I typed a paragraph to that effect then deleted it and started again :D

Also I dont think I was very clear, I didnt mean bigger in the katie price sense of the word... I meant making one solid flat breastplate. I seem to remember from the old clave PO made a female inquisitor with a chestplate made from a 40k space marines chest. I meant something to look like that.

Adam, I like the idea of paying a small amount of money and getting a professionally sculpted rifle rather than spending a lot of time and getting a naff rifle :D any idea about the size of the thing? Ideally I want it to be just a bit bigger than would be sensible. 

Ynek, those guns are pretty awesome, Ive needed an excuse for a character with a bullpup gun for ages but I always see them as a proper military thing and none of my characters are really 'army' enough. Its gonna happen though, maybe as a late addition to this warband.
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: MarcoSkoll on November 30, 2009, 02:56:50 PM
Quote from: Sneak on November 30, 2009, 09:21:18 AMI seem to remember from the old clave PO made a female inquisitor with a chestplate made from a 40k space marines chest.
A workable plan. I liked the way Van Helser did it: http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=308.0

But still, I'd build in place of the current breasts - not over them, because that would be a path to "top heavy".
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Kaled on November 30, 2009, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: Sneak on November 30, 2009, 09:21:18 AM
I like the idea of paying a small amount of money and getting a professionally sculpted rifle rather than spending a lot of time and getting a naff rifle :D any idea about the size of the thing? Ideally I want it to be just a bit bigger than would be sensible.
I bought some 54mm weapons by Andrea a while ago and they were far smaller than the weapons from the GW range - they might have worked on 28mm models , but even then they probably still wouldn't have looked right.

You're better off following Ynek's advice and making your own...
Title: Re: Long rifle modelling
Post by: Sneak on November 30, 2009, 11:04:02 PM
I was afraid of that. Damned GW models 'heroic' scale haha. Actually I like it like that (more heroic), damn real life human non-heroic proportions hah.

Ah well copper tube, time and effort it is. Should be alright, I have a good idea what im going to do... wait for xmas & expect WiP pics then :D

wow the marine torso is a really good fit for scale. While I dont think Im going to use it, I dont plan on having the lady too armoured up, I can see that being a good thing to compare to... I always end up regretting the proportions of my sculpting :D