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Title: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 19, 2010, 03:41:03 PM
Recently I've come down with a pretty bad case of Nurgle's Rot and have been signed off work - about the only thing I was able to do at first was sit on the sofa all day and watch telly, but after a while daytime telly became too much to bear and I found that I was strong enough to work on a few models (while still remaining sat on the sofa!).

Mainly I've been working on a few more members to join Kryzak's explorator expedition - the first of which is this, as yet unnamed, Skitarii-Provost.  Unfortunately the flash wasn't too kind to some of my highlighting (I'll try to remember to take more photos when the light is better), but I think he turned out quite nicely.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/provost.jpg)
- Left (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/provost_left.jpg) - Right (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/provost_right.jpg) -

I've also built another servitor armed with xeno-tech and a Tech-Acolyte; plus I have a Biologis Tech-Priest in the works, so all being well you should get to see a few more models from me in the next few days...

- Dave
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 03:55:42 PM
Looking good so far!

Is there a profile for this character?
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Myriad on January 19, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Another nice model, and fitting well with the rest of the squad (something I'm terrible at).  Is that an underslung grenade launcher?
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Post by: kierkegaard on January 19, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
Awesome work as always Dave.

The only problem that I have with your models is that they make me hate my own  ;D
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on January 19, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: Myriad on January 19, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Another nice model, and fitting well with the rest of the squad (something I'm terrible at).  Is that an underslung grenade launcher?

I doubt it, the lower 'barrel' seems not to have a hole at the front, I guess it is an autogun or a combat shotgun.

Nice model, I'm a big fan of the judge as a base, and great use of terminator parts (the face is now the official 54mm scale gas mask).

Interesting base, is that an imperial tech bulkhead built on a necron tech floor?
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Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 19, 2010, 08:21:26 PM
I am also envious of your skills. And you're also reminding me that I'm skiving off from working on models...

Quote from: Inquisitor Cade on January 19, 2010, 08:09:31 PMInteresting base, is that an imperial tech bulkhead built on a necron tech floor?
He uses that "Necron" base for all of this group of models to give them cohesion - you can see it quite nicely in one of the photos I took at the IGT (http://s772.photobucket.com/albums/yy3/MarcoSkoll/IGT%202009%20Photos/IMG_2397.jpg).

Quote from: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 03:55:42 PMIs there a profile for this character?
As a general rule, Kaled doesn't put his profiles on the site. He works on a principle of "If you want to know if that dude wielding the sword is good in combat or just a poser, you'll have to charge him".
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 19, 2010, 08:49:11 PM
Thanks guys - glad people like him.  At first I was worried he'd look too much like a Arbitrator being as his torso, legs and head were all taken from the Judge - but I think he looks different enough, and AdMech enough, to work as a Skitarii-Provost.

Quote from: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 03:55:42 PM
Is there a profile for this character?
As Marco says, in general if you want to know how good my characters are you'll have to engage them in combat.  That said, so far this guy has neither name nor profile - he was just a model I wanted to build and I'll figure the rest out soon.  What did you want to know about him?

Quote from: Myriad on January 19, 2010, 04:48:50 PM
Is that an underslung grenade launcher?
No - it's an automatic combat shotgun with a drum mag and laser sight (I think - I might change my mind about some of the details when I get around to writing his profile.

Quote from: Inquisitor Cade on January 19, 2010, 08:09:31 PM
Interesting base, is that an imperial tech bulkhead built on a necron tech floor?
It's just supposed to be a bit of Imperial tech sat on the floor of a Necron tomb.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: MarcoSkoll on January 19, 2010, 08:21:26 PM

Quote from: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 03:55:42 PMIs there a profile for this character?
As a general rule, Kaled doesn't put his profiles on the site. He works on a principle of "If you want to know if that dude wielding the sword is good in combat or just a poser, you'll have to charge him".

Ah yes I suspected this to be the case, given the general lack of profiles accompanying his current generation of miniatures, and the statement included in the Calculus-logi thread /weep


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QuoteAs Marco says, in general if you want to know how good my characters are you'll have to engage them in combat.  That said, so far this guy has neither name nor profile - he was just a model I wanted to build and I'll figure the rest out soon.  What did you want to know about him?

Just general curiosity, nothing major.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 22, 2010, 04:46:30 PM
Okay, next up is a servitor armed with recovered xeno-tech.  This time, it's a testbed for evaluating the performance of a Tyranid Deathspitter - as you can see it's been subdued by various drugs and chemicals, but I'm betting the control will prove to be less than absolute as it already seems to be infecting his bloodstream...

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/deathspitter.jpg)
- Back (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/deathspitter_back.jpg) -

His face is a bit flat, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with him - especially the deathspitter itself.  Now all I need is some rules for it... anyone got any ideas?

Quote from: Ferran on January 19, 2010, 08:50:27 PM
Just general curiosity, nothing major.
Well, if there is anything you want to know, feel free to ask - but questions such as what's his WS are unlikely to get an answer as, for one thing, I still haven't written his profile yet - however I expect it'll be a fairly average Arbites/Enforcer statline with a higher strength due to his bionic arm.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Heroka Vendile on January 22, 2010, 07:55:55 PM
excellent stuff Dave.

Not to nit-pick, but to scale it's more like a fleshborer (missing the "clip") rather than a deathspitter, which is about the length of a man.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: RobSkib on January 22, 2010, 08:18:12 PM
Great work as usual comerade, but Heroka raises an interesting point that reminded me of something I wanted to post earlier but forgot the moment I sat down to write - the Deathspitter has an ammo feed running up the left arm that supports the weapon, from the angles you've shown it doesn't seem like there's an external ammunition source - I take it the weapon only has a shot or two?
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 22, 2010, 08:56:52 PM
Once again, impressive work. I'm sure that'll result in some interesting run-ins with Puritans.

Quote from: Kaled on January 22, 2010, 04:46:30 PMNow all I need is some rules for [the deathspitter... anyone got any ideas?
I'll run off to do some research, then see what comes to mind.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 22, 2010, 09:52:03 PM
The deathspitter is based on an earlier generation of the weapon - one that was self-contained and didn't have the external ammo feed.  As for it's size, Tyranid weapons seem to come in all different sizes depending on the size of the creature that's carrying it - this one was obviously captured from a creature smaller than a Tyranid Warrior...
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: kierkegaard on January 22, 2010, 10:49:45 PM
Excellent work on the Servitor. I love the deathspitter with chemical injectors, and the effects of the spreading infection are superb.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Swarbie on January 23, 2010, 01:58:01 AM
Hmmmm, deathspitters fire embryos coated in an acidic substance, IIRC. When the embryo hits a target, it bursts, spraying acid all over it. Perhaps give it average damage, a rule for eating through an opponents armour and have it hitting D3 locations per shot?

Also, maybe have it slowly regenerating ammunition, as the creature itself grows the embryos.

Overall, another great model Kaled. I particularly love how the deathspitter appears to be giving the servitor blood poisoning.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 23, 2010, 02:12:48 AM
Right...

*Digs out now-defunct 'Nid codex*

... Deathspitter. Fires maggot like creatures that splatter corrosive goo over the surrounding area on impact. 40k profile (for the last codex at least): Range 24"; Strength as creature + 1 (to max S7); AP 5; Assault 1 Blast.

From that, it reads like it should be a direct fire blast weapon, possibly using some variant of the rules for Hellfire ammunition - probably with a reasonably hefty Acc penalty as well. Downside to doing something like that is that the multiple hits of a blast weapon and having to make a roll before and after armour will be somewhat sluggish in game.

Given the relatively small size of this one, I might be tempted to do something like Swarbie has suggested. Actually, now that he mentions it, I remember I've already written a profile for a weapon somewhat like that. Perhaps some adaptation on the Gauss Flayer rules I wrote for the Revised Armoury - I'd say probably a higher damage, but a heavier accuracy penalty.

Actually, tell the truth, now that idea has come up, I'm somewhat tempted to make the Hellfire ammunition for the Armoury follow rules along the lines of a gauss weapon, or at least add some form of ammunition that does eat armour and can't be healed within the game's time frame.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: precinctomega on January 23, 2010, 09:07:27 AM
I thought the point of hellfire rounds was that there were very effective against living tissue, but less so against inert matter like armour.

R.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on January 23, 2010, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: precinctomega on January 23, 2010, 09:07:27 AMI thought the point of hellfire rounds was that there were very effective against living tissue, but less so against inert matter like armour.
That depends a little in what proportions you take it to be acidic and poisonous, but yes, you're right.

I'll probably leave the Hellfire rounds as they are, and will instead create some other form of "acid" projectile that follows Gauss weapon-esque rules.
Be a little interesting to wonder what kind of purpose a projectile like that might be intended for, but as of my current lack of sleep, it sounds like a good idea.

Probably won't after I've had some rest, but I'll take that risk.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Ferran on January 23, 2010, 11:28:51 AM
Nice work on the servitor, I especially like the deathspitter, some great painting on there it seems, sepecially the "barrel". Lots of character throughout the whole model. I think maybe the rebreather could have benefitted from some more attention, rather than the classic old mouth+tube combo. Some sort of mouth+mask+tube perhaps.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on January 23, 2010, 01:37:28 PM
I don't see how acid weapons would damage armour if others dont. Acid would burn a hole through armour, but no more than a melta gun, and bullets/las/bolts would leave holes in armour too. If there are going to be rules for damage to armour they should be universal, rather than exclusive to some types of weapon.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Myriad on January 25, 2010, 12:31:34 AM
Another good model - servitor faces are allowed to be flat I think.  The deathspitter integrates well - maybe too well...
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 27, 2010, 05:28:47 PM
Right then, here's the fourth (and final) model I built while I was off work - I finished her the other night but have only now had chance to post pictures.  She's Tech-Acolyte Alaia Katenta, an apprentice Tech-Adept not yet ordained into the priesthood.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/katenka.jpg)
- Back (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/katenka_back.jpg) - Face (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/s_katenta.jpg) -

I was pretty torn while painting her, the original model (a female samurai from Pegaso) is painted with loads of very opulent looking decoration and it seemed a crime not to attempt something similar on mine - especially on the red robe.  On the other hand, she is very low down in the AdMech and I didn't want her to look too fancy.  In the end I left her plain, but there's still a chance I might revisit her if I ever decide on a cool to paint on her cloak...
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Ferran on January 27, 2010, 05:49:29 PM
Nice work, I really like the grey on this one. Good idea having her as an apprentice, she does retain a very human feel. The pendant looks good. Any chance of linking to base model?
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on January 27, 2010, 06:13:41 PM
Samurai Female Warrior(1600-1867) by Pegaso Models;
http://www.pegasomodels.com/productdetails_en.asp?id=569

A very nice model to receive as a Christmas present. :)
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Post by: Molotov on January 27, 2010, 06:23:14 PM
Really a huge fan of the injectors in the Deathspitter - great work!
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Post by: Swarbie on January 28, 2010, 04:12:11 AM
Another lovely model Kaled. I really like the tattoo on her left cheek and her chain-axe. This group of models will look fabulous together.
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Post by: Heroka Vendile on January 29, 2010, 05:11:09 PM
that female samurai has been a long-time favourite of mine, great job converting it Kaled.
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Post by: Alyster Wick on January 29, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
I just have to echo that those look stunning.  The little details on all of them are top notch.  I especially love the infection brought on by the deathspitter and the use of the destroyer bit on the female's face.  Any chance of a group photo?  I feel like there's some great gestalt waiting to happen...
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Post by: kierkegaard on January 30, 2010, 02:46:09 PM
Bloody hell Dave, that is magnificent.

The robes are beautifully done, and I really like the detail on the chain axe head. The conversion is top notch too - love the Necron eye.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Lazarus Caladine on February 05, 2010, 04:24:50 PM
Loads of great work, unfortunately I had a lot of similar ideas with my AdMech characters. Look for some very similar models with terrible conversions and paint jobs in the next few months  :-\
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on February 05, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
Go for it - I look forwards to seeing them.  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that - in fact I'm currently working on a model very much inspired by one of PO's creations.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on March 06, 2010, 12:28:47 PM
Afternoon all,

This next model has been sat on my shelf in this state for some weeks now while I've been working on the final (for now at least) member of the warband, but with the Spring Conclave approaching I put the last model to one side to build a model for Lord Inquisitor Calleia (who I'll post pics of shortly) - thus I decided that I may as well at least post a work in pogress picture of him.  As you might guess, he's a Biologis Tech-Priest and, like Orla Riall, is intended to serve as an alternate warband leader.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Works%20in%20Progress/wip_biologis.jpg)

As some of you might guess, he inspired by one of my favourite models in PO's collection...

- Dave
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Post by: RobSkib on March 06, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
I think the thing I like most about this model is how naturally all the parts seem to fit together - I can place every part (except those things on the end of the mechadendrites, but with another camera angle I could get them - what are they?) but I wouldn't have even thought about putting them together this way. Great stuff! How are you going to paint him?
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on March 06, 2010, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: RobSkib on March 06, 2010, 01:44:07 PM
can place every part (except those things on the end of the mechadendrites, but with another camera angle I could get them - what are they?) but I wouldn't have even thought about putting them together this way.
He's got a hand (from Cherubael) and a tentacle (like on my Enslavers) - I figured a Biologis ought to have biological dendrites.  I was going to add another two, one with an eye and another with a mouth, but they were too much for one figure so I'll save the idea for another model...

Hopefully he'll help show people that even though the Inquisitor range is pretty small, there are still tons of ways to make unique characters just by putting them together in different ways.  An it'd not as if this guy needed a huge degree of skill to convert - just a bit of sculpting to get the legs and torso to fit together.

QuoteHow are you going to paint him?
Probably similar to Robey's - a blue/green medical scrubs colour for the main robes with red detailing.  That's the current plan anyway...
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: kierkegaard on March 06, 2010, 04:03:38 PM
Very nicely done Dave. I'm glad that you left it at two mechadendrites (four would have looked silly, with all the arms mounted on his back) but I think that it would have been even better with a tentacle and an eyeball rather than a hand. Just my opinion (maybe I just want to see an eyeball on a mechadendrite...) 

Looking forward to seeing it painted.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on May 09, 2010, 10:15:53 AM
Morning all,

The latest and, for now at least, last model in Kryzak's expedition to the Gaugtel Stars is finally complete.  It took a couple of attempts to get the right blue/green mix for his robe, but I'm happy with how that turned out - and despite the fact that he's mainly a different colour to everyone else in the warband, the red and cog-tooth pattern tie them together pretty well and he doesn't look too out of place on the shelf next to the rest of them.

Tech-Priest Gormax Laekon, Collegia Biologis

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/laekon.jpg)
- Back - (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/Miscellaneous%20Inquisitor%20Photos/laekon_back.jpg)

And, just because for some reason I posted her in a different thread - here's a link to the thread for my Electro-Priestess so everything's in one place;
http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=703.0

- Dave
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Post by: Swarbie on May 09, 2010, 10:43:03 AM
Wow. Those bio-dendrites look really creepy. I like him very much.
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Post by: Myriad on May 09, 2010, 11:36:31 AM
Very nice - I can see you've worked on the tone of the robes.

I like that he looks quite unhealthy, which makes sense really.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: kierkegaard on May 09, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
It took you long enough! (I sent you that Tezla head back in January :) )

It was worth the wait though. Excellent work. The contrast between the red and green is fantastic, and I particularly like the ivory coloured wrist guards (or bionics casings, or whatever they are.)
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Gestalt on May 09, 2010, 05:18:02 PM
I love that aqua colour ;D, brilliant. Not so sure about the red. I think it needs to be toned down. Great model overall.
Title: Re: Kryzak's expedition grows...
Post by: Kaled on May 09, 2010, 05:35:33 PM
Quote from: kierkegaard on May 09, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
It took you long enough! (I sent you that Tezla head back in January :) )
I know - I'm getting slower I think.  I'll try to do the next one quicker... now to decide who that'll be.  Maybe a navigator, or Ordo Sicarius Inquisitor.  Or first I might re-base this (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/winter.jpg) model (which is a shame as I was really proud of how that base came out) as he looks really good next to Calleia so I think he'll join that warband; and also change the sword and head on this (http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/kaled100/jessamyn.jpg) model and she can join my existing Ordo Sicarius warband.