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The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Painting and Modelling => Topic started by: Gourdo on March 10, 2010, 04:49:58 PM

Title: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Gourdo on March 10, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
But how cool is this? http://tinyurl.com/yko77rd
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Shard on March 10, 2010, 04:59:28 PM
Sweet balls of Dorn! You could build a decent-sized Inquisitor-scale Imperial Guard platoon for the amount that thing costs!
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Heroka Vendile on March 10, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
...it's a foot tall, that makes it bigger than a Dreadnaught would be in Inquisitor. It is, however, cool.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 10, 2010, 06:36:39 PM
While that is absurdly large, and expensive, there might be cheaper toy versions...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 10, 2010, 06:44:49 PM
Quote from: Heroka Vendile on March 10, 2010, 06:18:43 PM...it's a foot tall.
No it isn't. It's a 30 inch, not a 30 centimetre model.

At that size, it would be about the size of an Inquisitor scale Reaver Titan!
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 10, 2010, 07:17:03 PM
... Oh no. You went and said it. Someone is going to do it now...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 10, 2010, 11:42:37 PM
Quote from: DapperAnarchist on March 10, 2010, 07:17:03 PMSomeone is going to do it now...
I think the practical problems with fitting a 30" model onto a typical table rather outweigh the impressiveness of such a thing.
Anything that big would be pretty much relegated to being a static terrain piece, unless the terrain was very sparse, very cunningly placed, or moved to make way for the Titan.

Not that I'm necessarily trying to put anyone off if they are thinking about doing an Inquisitor scale Titan, but I'm just sharing a few of the problems I turned up in the planning stages of making a 40k scale Warlord (which would have been about 2 feet tall) several years back.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 11, 2010, 01:25:30 AM
Given that, in theory, an Inquisitor game could last about 5 minutes of game time, I see no reason why it could not take place at the foot of a titan, that moves extremely slowly...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 11, 2010, 01:51:30 AM
While I don't have a figure on the speed of a Reaver, a Warhound has a top speed exceeding 35 mph.
Given most humans can't muster more than about half that (particularly when carrying the kind of stuff our characters do), a Titan would need to be expressly still, not merely "moving very slowly".

Which wouldn't be infeasible. A Reaver could well be performing long range fire support (big awareness penalties for the whole game, of course) - but why the characters are going to be hanging around underneath it is a bit of a different question.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Caralinus on March 11, 2010, 01:52:04 AM
I guess 30inches works out about 80feet or so at 54mm? That'd make it even bigger than a Reaver Titan, plus the price is absurd. I've seen a 9inch AMP suit for twenty dollars which isn't as well made as this but much more accessible.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 11, 2010, 02:00:35 AM
Quote from: Kallidor on March 11, 2010, 01:52:04 AMI guess 30inches works out about 80feet or so at 54mm? That'd make it even bigger than a Reaver Titan.
Reavers, as best as can be worked out, are about 23-24 meters in height if you include the typical carapace mounted missile launcher. So, about 75-80 feet.

Given I expect the 30" figure includes the quite chunky base on that model, I'd say the two would pretty much match up in size.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Flinty on March 11, 2010, 12:10:32 PM
Cool it maybe, but do they ever actually sell any?

I once spent a short time making props at the, now long defunct, Alien War ''attraction'' at the Trocadero, and would very occasionally *cough* suppliment *cough* our subsistence wages by selling off an Alien suit (head, hands, tail etc ,taken from an original film prop) for the huge fee, then of £400. From which was taken the cost of latex, buiscuit foam, etc etc; my share left me with enough to add the luxury of beans to my toast once a day for the next 2 weeks if I was careful...

Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Myriad on March 11, 2010, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: DapperAnarchist on March 11, 2010, 01:25:30 AM
Given that, in theory, an Inquisitor game could last about 5 minutes of game time, I see no reason why it could not take place at the foot of a titan, that moves extremely slowly...

Hmm.  A slowly descending titan foot...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 11, 2010, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: MarcoSkoll on March 11, 2010, 01:51:30 AM
While I don't have a figure on the speed of a Reaver, a Warhound has a top speed exceeding 35 mph.
Given most humans can't muster more than about half that (particularly when carrying the kind of stuff our characters do), a Titan would need to be expressly still, not merely "moving very slowly".

Which wouldn't be infeasible. A Reaver could well be performing long range fire support (big awareness penalties for the whole game, of course) - but why the characters are going to be hanging around underneath it is a bit of a different question.

Well, the obvious option is sabotage. Other options include - Heretek trying to get access to a Dark Age MIU, Thorian who thinks this Reaver is the one that might manifest the Emperor's spirit, assassination attempt covered up by the noise of battle (to quote Jack O'Neill - "Oh, its like shooting someone when the train goes past so no-one hears it!"), Monodominant has commandeered this Reaver to shell a city to dust for a minor infraction, and another Inquisitor decides this is unacceptable...

Damn it, now I need to go to Smyths...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: precinctomega on March 11, 2010, 03:16:57 PM
Having built and painted a 40k Reaver titan a couple of months ago, I can report that it stands at about 18" tall, so an INQ version would need to be about 36-40" tall.

Not impossible, by any means.  I have plans for a 40k Imperator titan (i.e. I've drawn up the plans and rough blueprints not "I'm planning to build...") which stands 42" tall.

R.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: MarcoSkoll on March 11, 2010, 04:14:01 PM
Hmm.

Having thought about it, I might be tempted to underscale an Inquisitor scale Titan a bit. Even if you took a couple of inches off their height, they'd still be vast - and easily more than big enough to illustrate the sheer size of these things. But they wouldn't be quite so impractically huge.

I think the fact that such a model would be a significant proportion of the size of the players would quite make up for the fact it wasn't quite big enough compared to the models.

Quote from: DapperAnarchist on March 11, 2010, 01:44:29 PMMonodominant has commandeered this Reaver to shell a city to dust for a minor infraction, and another Inquisitor decides this is unacceptable...
And what exactly is this Inquisitor going to do to stop a Titan? To quote Silva* on the subject of a large gribbly beast:
"Well, you could wave your silver jewellery in its face and order it to stop in the name of the Emperor - or, I could tell it that it's an awful rampaging monster and its mother would be ashamed. At that point, I'm hoping it'll commit suicide."

*In which, I suppose that I'm strictly quoting myself. But saying that would be dishonest - she said it, not me.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Molotov on March 11, 2010, 04:48:34 PM
I can imagine constructing parts of a titan to play a game of Inquisitor - fighting inside a titan, or on top of one of the larger ones (an Emperor or somesuch) could be interesting. I can imagine a team of Inquisitorial operatives inserting onto a titan via Grav-Chute and fighting their way to an access door...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: DapperAnarchist on March 11, 2010, 05:20:40 PM
While Inquisitor Monodominant-Loveskilling is alive, Princeps Wouldliketoseetomorrow won't accept new orders. Kill or capture him, and the Princeps will accept your Inquisitorial authority.
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Alyster Wick on March 13, 2010, 12:29:01 AM
My first Inquisitor game featured a gigantic AT-AT toy (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eRswV8Of8IE/Sa7UmsKWmoI/AAAAAAAACKw/dOsCWQpVPYU/AT%20AT%20Walker%20005_thumb.jpg (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_eRswV8Of8IE/Sa7UmsKWmoI/AAAAAAAACKw/dOsCWQpVPYU/AT%20AT%20Walker%20005_thumb.jpg)) as a non-canonical titan.  The game took place in a hangar bay.  Some mad techpriest decided to construct this bay on a circular platform suspended in the middle of nowhere with a floor the consistency of a patterned green tablecloth...

Plot holes and lack of resources/story aside, I will say that an inactive titan makes for a fun and decorative centerpiece. If designed correctly you could have a massive Titan who only needs to appear from the shoulders up with anything below that point being painted black to symbolize a character falling to their doom.  I know it could be problematic in that characters could die incredibly easily, but just picture two inquisitors, the radical and the puritan, daemon blade versus powersword, doing battle on the shoulder blade of a titan. You know you want to...
Title: Re: A bit big maybe...
Post by: Inquisitor Cade on March 16, 2010, 10:54:09 PM
If you were going to convert that thing into a Reaver you'd might as well not use it for a base. A better idea, I think, would be to make it a civilian work platform, a mining rig or what have you. The cockpit could be converted to a bridge where multiple characters could interact, a few ladders and doors, and you've got a one piece terrain.