The Conclave

The Ordos Majoris - Hobby, Painting and Modelling => Inquisitor Game Discussion => Topic started by: MarcoSkoll on April 25, 2010, 07:35:36 PM

Title: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on April 25, 2010, 07:35:36 PM
As per this post here (http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34.msg9133#msg9133), the files from the Spring Conclave have been uploaded to the Inquisitorial Archives. They are available both as a bulk pack (http://www.mediafire.com/?42r4y2ugiqi) and Individual files (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=83a8065900393694ab1eab3e9fa335cad2b214fde669601c) for your perusal.

I've set up this thread for whatever discussion might arise from this.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kasthan on April 25, 2010, 07:43:12 PM
Just to say WOW! I knew Kaled had put some work in but this is amazing. Thanks for making them accessible.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on April 25, 2010, 07:44:45 PM
Thanks Marco.

Most useful of these is probably the Contacts, which contains about 140 characters created by Robskib and myself - they're a mix of Inquisitors, nobles, respected members of the Adeptus, wanted heretics, pawns, and other, more mysterious, figures.  If nothing else, they should be useful in helping people write up their reports of the day, but feel free to re-use the cards to run your own campaigns.  There's no background for any of the characters other than what is written, so feel free to take them and use them however you see fit.  There are two exceptions to that - Calleia is now head of the Carthaxian Conclave (and one of my PC/NPCs) so don't go killing him off; and I plan to build a model for Novia Fraal, so the same goes for her.  The rest* are fair game though...

Also, there are quite a few plot hooks thrown in there that could be expanded into campaigns set in the Carthax sector.  The story hooks were only added as I found it made it easier to come up with characters if I had some vague context for them - I have no idea what's really going on with the stories, so people are more than welcome to take them in any direction they want.


* Unless Robskib plans to model any of the ones he created, but he'll no doubt tell us if that's the case.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Myriad on April 25, 2010, 10:39:03 PM
I remember surreptitiously checking to see whether other people had the same contacts.  These are a serious bit of work with lots of material, some of which I think I can use.

I notice the names Inquisitor Roth and Krell both got used twice though.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on April 26, 2010, 07:24:37 AM
Ooops - Roth was deliberately used twice; Krell wasn't deliberate, but I can live with a few people in the sector having the same name!
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Molotov on April 26, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
Very nice, Kaled - your work in this is very impressive. Those cards might well give me some inspiration when creating some of my own background - thanks for putting these online so that those of us who weren't there can still enjoy the fruits of your labour!

EDIT: I have to give you credit for the name "Kashan Kari", as well!  ;D
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: RobSkib on April 26, 2010, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: Molotov on April 26, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
EDIT: I have to give you credit for the name "Kashan Kari", as well!  ;D

There are a couple more nuggets like that in there if you're willing to look ;)

Pretty much all of them are free game, I made a couple of them in the image of characters I already owned, and I had planned on creating the Kaede Mack syndicate, but that can wait for the autumn conclave! Over the next few days I'll try and get pictures up of the models I already have for contacts.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Heroka Vendile on April 26, 2010, 07:05:34 PM
not complaining or anything, and yes Dave (and Rob) clearly put a whole load of work into this, but surely it would have made more sense to upload the campaign pack to the dark magenta site alongside a brief article (even just a single page would suffice) on the days events?
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on April 26, 2010, 08:06:30 PM
I considered it, but when I thought about what I might write, it was mostly the same sorts of things as Robey wrote in his Dark Fortress article - since I couldn't think of anything new and original to write, I decided to just upload it as it was.  That said, if you (or anyone else) want to take it and re-edit it into a proper Dark Magenta article along with some text about your experiences on the day (or whatever), then I'm more than happy for you to do that and could probably be persuaded to write a couple of paragraphs to go with it.

I've already got a long article on Tech-Priests in the the works (although that's mostly just waiting on me to finish painting a couple of models), and the Amalathian Sourcebook to finish, so have no shortage of DM projects on the go as it is...
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Heroka Vendile on April 28, 2010, 07:58:59 PM
Just finished reading through the Contacts, you really did put a tonne of work into them. Have to say I'm a big fan of Kaede Mack though especially, certainly a name I can see appearing in many places in the future  :)
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: RobSkib on April 28, 2010, 09:39:22 PM
Quote from: Heroka Vendile on April 28, 2010, 07:58:59 PMHave to say I'm a big fan of Kaede Mack though especially, certainly a name I can see appearing in many places in the future  :)

Feel free to make a model of Kaede Mack if you want! I know I'm planning on making three... :P
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on May 29, 2010, 01:48:44 PM
I'm going to bring this one up briefly.

In the course of writing up the events of the Spring Conclave, I went back to the few Contact cards I still had left, and was rather struck by the idea of possibly developing up Inquisitrix Katlien Vance, or at least someone based on the concept.

What's the source on the picture for her (bottom right hand corner of the last page) - I half recognise it, but can't remember where from. Given the fact the other images seem to be sourced from anywhere between Warhammer Online concept art and the Necromunda Rulebook it seems a bit too much effort to go hunting for it rather than just asking.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on May 29, 2010, 04:19:02 PM
Off the top of my head I don't know the answer to that one - I think she's from somewhere on the FFG site. I'll check and get back to you (unless someone else answers in the meantime).
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on May 29, 2010, 05:07:47 PM
Got it. (http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1070) Just needed it narrowed down a bit - I wasn't going to search absolutely everywhere...

Oddly, it seems that file is listed on TinEye, so I don't know why my first attempt to track it back that way didn't work.

(For those who don't know, TinEye is a reverse image search. You give it an image, and it searches for other versions of that image - including crops/full versions, contrast/brightness/colour changes, as well as a certain degree of reshaping and rotation.)
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on May 29, 2010, 05:40:40 PM
Glad you found it, and I look forwards to seeing what you do with the idea. It'd be fun to see some of those contacts turned into models and characters  - especially as I spent ages coming up with all those names (Rob too) some of which were very cool (if I may say so myself). Katlien Vance was one such name I was really happy with but I have no plans to make her myself.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on May 29, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
Yeah - I think you've actually managed to come up with a veritable smorgasbord of concepts to work from with that contacts list. Even if they're not actually individually developed up into characters (and there's a lot that catch my eye, although I couldn't hope to make all of them - nor would it really be fair of me to steal that many ideas*), there's potential in just intertwining them into the background of other characters.

*Although I may do a Kaede Mack of my own... that concept needs lots of people claiming to be Mack. ;D
It'll be great, up until someone makes Witchhunter Ayo. ::)

Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: RobSkib on May 30, 2010, 10:57:23 AM
Quote from: MarcoSkoll on May 29, 2010, 09:00:29 PM*Although I may do a Kaede Mack of my own... that concept needs lots of people claiming to be Mack

I'm making three, there's plenty of room for more Macks!
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Heroka Vendile on May 31, 2010, 11:20:27 PM
I too have decided that one of the unnamed grunt models I have is now another claimant of the name Kaede Mack.   ;)
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: precinctomega on June 01, 2010, 03:51:33 PM
I rather like the idea that every regular Conclaver should have his own version of Kaede Mack.

R.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Brother_Brimstone on June 01, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
"Welcome to the Inquisitorial conclave, brother. Please check your Kaede Mack at the door..."

On a more serious note, if we did each make our own Kaede Mack, we could arrange some sort of event at WHW based around the 'Kaede Mack Conspiracy' and let the story unfold. Of course, doing such would be a lot of work organising etc... but it would make for an interesting story!

Or perhaps more conveniently we could simply all just bring a Kaede Mack to the next meet-up and try and find time for a single Kaede Mack game (that way those without one would be able to play a different game at the same time, but those with one would get to use it.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: precinctomega on June 01, 2010, 08:53:20 PM
Hey, did anyone else just hear Brother_Brimstone volunteer to organize a WHW meet-up next year?  I know I did.

Put your hand up if you heard that.

*raises hand*

R.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on June 01, 2010, 11:18:15 PM
I think a game where EVERYONE is Kaede Mack might be a bit far-fetched. Actually, to be honest, it sounds a bit like Harry Hill: "Which one's better at being Kaede Mack? Kaede Mack, or Kaede Mack? Only one way to find out! FIIIIIIIIIIGHT!"

Quote from: precinctomega on June 01, 2010, 08:53:20 PMHey, did anyone else just hear Brother_Brimstone volunteer to organize a WHW meet-up next year?
Actually, I've been contemplating volunteering to run a meet myself. No promises, but it may happen.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: RobSkib on June 01, 2010, 11:42:26 PM
My original plan for the three Macks at the meetup (if I'd ever got round to making them) was all three warbands would have objectives based around Kaede Mack - one warband to take him in for interrogation, one warband to protect him and one warband to kill him, assisted by a third party - Mack again!
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Necris on June 02, 2010, 12:03:45 AM
I can see a competition for the best Kaede Mack brewing
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Brother_Brimstone on June 02, 2010, 12:08:07 AM
The problem with any event organised by me is that of all the 'regular posters' on the Clave I've probably played the least Inquisitor (actually, do I even count as a 'regular'? I post a lot, but i've not been around for anywhere near as long as you lot!). Anyway, I'd be happy to offer any assistance i could, but i fear that I'm nowhere near experienced enough to organise a Clave meetup!

Still, with time comes experience and who knows, in the future, scary as it may be, there may one day be an event 'organised' (considering me in general 'organised' is a relative term!) by myself - be afraid; be very afraid!
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: MarcoSkoll on June 02, 2010, 01:19:47 AM
Quote from: Brother_Brimstone on June 02, 2010, 12:08:07 AMActually, do I even count as a 'regular'? I post a lot, but i've not been around for anywhere near as long as you lot!
Pretty much. Generally, if you keep active on the site and have made it to a meet, that's enough to count.

But not all of us lot have been here quite as long as you might think. Myself, I'm actually one of the younger "regulars", having only been a member of the Conclave since about September 2008... and only making it to two meets in that time. :-[
I might have made something of a name for myself, but that comes from too much time in front of the keyboard, and being the first person who got motivated to get the PDF articles back online. (Although someone else would have done eventually, I'm sure.)

That said, I have been playing the game since its release back in 2001 though.

QuoteBut I fear that I'm nowhere near experienced enough to organise a Clave meetup!
If someone as scatterbrained and disorganised as I can contemplate such an idea, then anyone can.

In the end, don't be too hesitant about the idea - if you need assistance, I'm sure you can find someone to team up with.

~~~~~

On other news, my work on Katlien Vance's background seems to be coming along quite nicely. You may well see it in the next few days (well, even if it takes longer, I can promise that no matter when it is finished, I feel that it's important to share it with the forum).
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Necris on June 02, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
I found when running one such event

Tis not the games that are the problem

Tis the final game which is the problem

The meet I ran seemed in my eyes to run very smoothly (It did didn't it?)

But the last game had some many characters it was just silly mostly my fault but it was a learning curve from having 2 or 2 warbands to having close to 12

I would put my name forward for planning another, but at the moment I'm not even able to commit to a regular gaming sessions on a weekly basis let alone a one off event way in the future.

Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: Kaled on June 02, 2010, 05:16:49 PM
After this year's Spring Conclave, Ruaridh and I exchanged a few e-mails and it turned out that we had both hit upon very similar solutions to the problem* of the final game.  I won't post that solution on here as I don't want to spoil what Ruaridh has planned for the Autumn/Winter Conclave, but if anyone is seriously planning an event in the meantime then drop me a line and I'll be happy to discuss ideas...


* I.e. wanting a proper climactic showdown in which everyone is involved, but simultaneously needing to keep down the number of players/characters to a manageable number so the game runs smoothly.
Title: Re: Spring Conclave Campaign Pack
Post by: precinctomega on June 03, 2010, 08:37:59 AM
I had exactly the same problem and noticed that both Tony and Dave ignored my advice to make the final showdown exclusive.  So I'll repeat it here for general consumption: make players compete to get into the final showdown so that there's no more than four people playing in the last game.  Everyone else can go do their own thing, spectate, play a pick-up game or hit the bar.

I should add that in the Dark Fortress campaign, I did make the final scenario exclusive but not exclusive enough, as some players came up with a clever way to get themselves into the last battle and the others formed cells to share their successes until the final confrontation.  Nine players.  Twenty-seven characters.

Never again.

R.