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Lazarus Caladine's WSDP and a few complete photos

Started by Lazarus Caladine, December 08, 2010, 11:28:20 AM

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Lazarus Caladine

TAKE 3
Two days ago I was planning to upload some photos of my models, some finished, some Work Stopped During Progress. After fighting with this forum's machine spirit, contacting The Terran Tech Support Service (thanks greenstuf_gav), fighting with imageshack's machine spirit then completely losing my connection, I called it a night.
And now, after yet another conflict with imageshack, You might actually be able to see the photos. If not, click the link to get a decent sized view.
So here we are, with a continuation from my weight thread as well as finally putting some pics up.  Please do ignore the patches of red on the models, I did try to 'factory' paint them, but after 10 solid hours painting and not really getting anywhere I gave up (quite some time ago).
First is my first built 54mm model, first painted and made entirely out of bitz; Primaris Investigator Magos Lazarus Caladine, Mechanicus Investigative Liaison

http://img146.imageshack.us/i/imag0371p.jpg/
He's based on Eisenhorn's legs and body with the enforcer helmet and arms, plus a big honking daemonsword (yes it is explained in the fluff, no it isn't a regular old daemonsword)

Next up, Techmagos Explorator Barelius 'Cog' Cogitator

http://img18.imageshack.us/i/imag0372e.jpg/
A good friend of Caladine's, Cog is mostly Gruss with a custom built power axe, mechadendrite mounted shield and a big mechadendrite floodlight type thing.

The last completed model for the first post, Skitarii Guardian Tryn 'Foresight' Forlorn

http://img205.imageshack.us/i/imag0373f.jpg/
Arbites judge with the enforcer helmet, a slightly modified shotgun and his shock maul is plugged into his back.

That is my first and so far only complete warband, agents from the Mechanicus Investigative Liason.

From the Ordo Hereticus and distrusting of all things Mechanicus, Inquisitor Jonas 'Judge' Dread

http://img84.imageshack.us/i/imag03760.jpg/
Tyrus' body and arms with a 40k scale plasma cannon making itself known as a plasma carbine, a custom digi-needle pistol implanted where his thumb was missing (thankyou ebay) and the judge's Judge Dredd helmet. Garry Morely is a name much loathed in my gaming group, and until this model I didn't know why. Oh the horror! Its previous owner clearly had to greenstuff significant portions of the arms just to get them in the standard pose, and what on Earth is the deal with that guys neck? Seriously? Is he supposed to be half giraffe or something?

Following him, the 'Enlightened' Ex-Techpriest Fulcrum Internus

http://img213.imageshack.us/i/imag03790.jpg/
Yeah he's in pieces. I used the Malicant model which I got from ebay...missing a big chunk of his evicerator. Custom power halberd made out of various bitz I had lying around, and a mechadendrite made from a regular mechadendrite claw and some lascannon tubing.

The third member of the Mechanicus haters, 'Enlightened' Skitarii Guardian Selia 'Crackshot' Corona

http://img204.imageshack.us/i/imag0375.jpg/
Standard Bravus style enforcer with a different head, and a custom built long-las with a longer barrel and part of a Tau gun drone for the scope.

On to my Heretek warband, starting with the escaped hacker Arc 'Sparky' Maielor

http://img121.imageshack.us/i/imag0378f.jpg/
Slick Devlan as a base with two stubbers instead of his stubber/revolver combo, Is going to have Tyrus' head once I cut the damn neck down to being human length.

The experimental drugless Arco Flagellant Brutus N1nj4 (right) and his hopped up friend 'Chuckles' Chk135 (left)

http://img718.imageshack.us/i/imag0382i.jpg/
Chuckles has most of Malicant's evicerator and one of the alternative flagellant's claws, and N1nj4 has a pair of Gruss' drills, counting as chainfists. Unfortunately the best angle with his rught drill tilted the model back on its base, so I replaced his left calf with a bionic made from a lascannon barrel.

And bringing up the rear is Heavy Weapons Servitor Repentus K-477

http://img716.imageshack.us/i/imag03850.jpg/
Sgt Black's body with an implanted multilaser, an implanted gas mask made using an old terminator head, and a power backpack built with an altered 40k scale plasma generator and a plasma cannon tube. Don't worry about the multilaser too much, this guy's bionic brain was rather badly hacked so he can't rinse the battlefield with shots, nor can he shoot reliably.

First of the NPCs, Grenadier Arnuld 'Arnie' Shwartsaneggur

http://img502.imageshack.us/i/imag03800.jpg/
Sgt Black's body again, with one of the judge's heads and a lasgun with an altered space marine missile launcher for a grenade launcher.

From and made of parts unknown![/futuramareference] Stavros Petroliev, Explorator Magos and old friend of Caladine

http://img163.imageshack.us/i/imag0377.jpg/
Covenant's legs, Gruss' body and right arm with a bitz revolver, enforcer helmet, mechadendrites, a power fist that I don't know where is from, and my favourite conversion ever, the archeotech plasgun. This is the guy who was going to have an MIU gauss flayer too, but he wouldn't be able to walk :(.

And my last NPC, Ackuuron Wyrne, Ex-battle psyker

http://img254.imageshack.us/i/imag03810.jpg/
Navis Nobilite with his third eye filed off, the top of his staff changed, and a tome from the Chaos god of hating Chaos (Malal?)

For posterity, the the servo skull pack I paid far too much for on ebay, and one incomplete custom one

http://img251.imageshack.us/i/imag0384.jpg/

And the marauding mutts

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/imag0383k.jpg/

Any comments welcome, and I will try to take better pictures of anything here if asked.
Laz
Better Living Through Superior Firepower

Lazarus Caladine

Sorry for the much frowned upon double post, but are they really that bad? :(
Better Living Through Superior Firepower

MarcoSkoll

No, they're not bad, but you've done something to most of the links so that they don't lead to full size photos  -  we can't really see them well enough to comment.
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Lazarus Caladine

Thanks Marco. Resize failure but links to the full size pics are now up with their respective models
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Myriad

I did intend to comment on these but got home quite late feeling a bit peeved and put it off.  It takes a few days for comments sometimes.  They're a good set of examples of how a little conversion work can make models look truly individual.  I've never seen an Eisenhorn conversion look bad, but the arm positioning and oversized sword gives this one a very different look, which is good.  What's with all the visors?

The Tyrus looks very scary - the judge head (another very versatile part) fits him quite well.
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Lazarus Caladine

Quote from: Myriad on December 09, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
They're a good set of examples of how a little conversion work can make models look truly individual.

Thanks. One of my (many) pet hates about GW is that all of their =I= models are fully named and fluffed characters, some from completely different timeframes and all easily recognisable. Kind of stupid considering you're supposed to come up with unique characters...

Quote from: Myriad on December 09, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
I've never seen an Eisenhorn conversion look bad, but the arm positioning and oversized sword gives this one a very different look, which is good.

It really came close to being horrifying. If you look at the original model, he has rather large cloak style sleeves, which I thought were integral to the body when I bought the bitz. How wrong I was. Luckily with a bit of filing all was forgiven.

Quote from: Myriad on December 09, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
What's with all the visors?

;D I'm terrible at painting eyes, and they just look so cool  ;D

Quote from: Myriad on December 09, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
The Tyrus looks very scary - the judge head (another very versatile part) fits him quite well.

Not the sort of guy I would like to meet when he's ticked off, but he was one of several 'Stick it on cos it's shiny!' guys.
Before I won the model off ebay I was really struggling to think of something to do with that helmet, it's too good to waste on a sub-par model, but I couldn't have it lament in my bits box. I may have to buy my first lot of greenstuff to convert the rest of the armour to be more like the Judge Dredd from the comics (eagle head and wings on the shoulders anyone?)

Laz
Better Living Through Superior Firepower

Kaled

Quote from: Lazarus Caladine on December 09, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
One of my (many) pet hates about GW is that all of their =I= models are fully named and fluffed characters, some from completely different timeframes and all easily recognisable. Kind of stupid considering you're supposed to come up with unique characters...
I think it's better that way - helps emphasis the fact that models in Inquisitor represent characters rather than nameless grunts (it always kinda annoyed me that the Thorian isn't sold as Lord Antigonus Balorodin).  They're only easily recognisable because people are used to seeing them that way, but it doesn't take much to convert them into someone new.  And because they had names before, people are compelled to give their conversions new names to distinguish them from the originals - and once they have names they soon have histories and personalities of their own.

But on to your models...  The painting is pretty neat, but all solid colours - it looks as if you have the ability to get them looking a lot better but just need to spend more time on them - 10 hours is about long enough for 1-2 models, so you'll need to spend a lot longer to finish all those.  It would be time well spent though as there's some nice conversions.  And I really like some of the converted weapons - especially the one for the Tech-Priest with the ridiculously over-sized powerfist.

Which ones were you having trouble with their encumbrance values?
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Lazarus Caladine

Quote from: Kaled on December 09, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
They're only easily recognisable because people are used to seeing them that way, but it doesn't take much to convert them into someone new.  And because they had names before, people are compelled to give their conversions new names to distinguish them from the originals - and once they have names they soon have histories and personalities of their own.

Hmm, never thought about it like that before. Touche.

Quote from: Kaled on December 09, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
But on to your models...  The painting is pretty neat, but all solid colours - it looks as if you have the ability to get them looking a lot better but just need to spend more time on them - 10 hours is about long enough for 1-2 models, so you'll need to spend a lot longer to finish all those.  It would be time well spent though as there's some nice conversions.

Oh dear. There's an important factor I haven't mentioned about why I'm really not a good painter. My hands are rediculously shakey, always have been. Cutting the caffee, less sugar whatever hasn't done anything, but the point is painting a single colour on each surface is about as good as I get. Writing anything, highlighting etc. is incredibly difficult for me, and I can't even cheat highlighting with washes (I tried an ink wash on a model from another game system. Total disaster). I do truly believe my attempt to factory the models was a dumb idea, I was at the time used to painting squads in 40k, particularly Necrons.

Quote from: Kaled on December 09, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
And I really like some of the converted weapons - especially the one for the Tech-Priest with the ridiculously over-sized powerfist.

Thanks, I loooooooooove converting stuff. The power fist I'm still not sure where is from, something that just turned up in a box full off stuff I was bidding on. It needed a little bit of fudging to be usable, but I like its inherent madness :D.

Quote from: Kaled on December 09, 2010, 05:37:11 PM
Which ones were you having trouble with their encumbrance values?

Well...all of them almost. Using Marco's fairly loose ruling on encumbrance:

  • Caladine is ok, just.
  • Cog is at -2 yards sprint, while only having 3pts of armour on all locations, plus an extra 3 on his chest and head
  • Tryn is at -1 yard to sprint thanks to his shotgun, 6pts of armour on his chest and abdomen, 3pts on his arms and groin, and his helmet
  • Jonas Dread is ok, no surprise there
  • Fulcrum is -1 yard to sprint. He's got 3pts on all locations except his head, where he has 5pts, two laspistols and his power halberd. Light as a feather IMO
  • Selia is at -2 yards to sprint, only difference between her and Fulcrum is her big scoped gun
  • Sparky and the arcoflagellants are fine
  • Repentus has three locations covered with 3pts of armour. While not overencumberd, he's going to eat whatever gets thrown at him very quickly
  • Shwartsaneggur is at -1 yard to sprint, he's got 3pts all across the board minus his head, mostly weighed down with his lasgun/grenade launcher
  • Petroliev is at a hefty -3 yards to sprint, with 3pts across the board and 6 on his head. The plasgun weighs a ton, and as previously mentioned he was going to have a gauss flayer but being able to move would no longer be possible
  • Wyrne is fine, and will become very difficult to damage when using his Psychic Ward and Warp Shield powers

Sorry for the wall of text. I just wanted to be comprehensive. If you would prefer I could post full stats and equipment up in a separate rules thread?

Thanks
Laz
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Kaled

As I said, I generally ignore encumbrance - but those effects you've listed seem pretty reasonable to me. It seems fair that wearing a load of armour or carrying equipment would mean you can't sprint as quickly as you could without it. And given how rarely characters sprint it's hardly a big disadvantage...
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