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Making a character from Eolith's Selene miniature.

Started by Raellos, December 09, 2009, 05:05:31 PM

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A couple of things have happened (or not happened). I've still found no ideal base model for Inquisitor Raellos, and I was looking at Eolith's model range, just after having seen this 28mm model on Warseer: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/319/2/8/Inquisitor_lord_Mordeci_by_Nordic_Dragon.jpg
Which got me thinking, how ace would she look 40Ked up? Very, if my conversion skils are up to scratch.

Anyway, so I'll be designing this character from the conversion idea I have rather than my own image (which has caused me a bit of a problem with Raellos, Ill probably just have to sculpt him from scratch myself). But before I write her up I just thought I'd ask about her weapons loadout.

She's got a pretty flash sword which would look good for Inquisitor. I don't want anything too potent, so I thought I'd ask if a force weapon is really much more appropriate than a power sword?

I was thinking that a suppression shield, force weapon and a hand flamer (either that or a suitable looking dueling pistol) might make her a bit too 'ard.

Kaled

Quote from: Raellos on December 09, 2009, 05:05:31 PM
She's got a pretty flash sword which would look good for Inquisitor. I don't want anything too potent, so I thought I'd ask if a force weapon is really much more appropriate than a power sword?
It depends on whether she's the sort of character who'd carry a force sword?  If she is, then that's the weapon she should have - regardless of how powerful it is.

QuoteI was thinking that a suppression shield, force weapon and a hand flamer (either that or a suitable looking dueling pistol) might make her a bit too 'ard.
There are other options for her sword - take a look at Charax & Helst's customisable Close Combat Weapon rules;
http://www.freewebs.com/closecombatweapons/index.htm
The weapons you've selected there will make her powerful up-close - but she'll be vulnerable when facing characters with longer ranged weapons.  If you're okay with that, and there's no reason why you shouldn't be, then I don't see a problem.
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MarcoSkoll

Quote from: Raellos on December 09, 2009, 05:05:31 PMShe's got a pretty flash sword which would look good for Inquisitor. I don't want anything too potent, so I thought I'd ask if a force weapon is really much more appropriate than a power sword?
A flash weapon is not necessarily a powerful one. It could reasonably just be an heirloom sword. Likely good as a mundane sword, but nothing that impressive against a "special" sword.
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Raellos

The weapon does have some inlaid detail in the guard that makes it look a bit techy. Anyway, I think I will run it as a force sword, because I've developed her a bit more.  She's kind of evolved already from a very fire and brimstone Codex: Witch Hunters character to somebody (just) a bit more pragmatic.

Inquisitor Mira Elena (random name)

WS BS  S   T   I     Wp  Sg  Nv  Ld
78  62 65 60 70   82   88  90   88

Mira Elena is right handed

Abilities: Leader

Psychic powers: Demoralise, Distract,  Mind Scan, Telepathy, Telekinesis (max. Weight 15)

Weapons, Armour and Equipment: Force Sword, Duelling Pistol and/or Hand Flamer; Carapace Armour on all locations except for head, Storm Shield.


Not sure abou the stats, I've used the stats in the rulebook as a base, except pared back a bit.  I've kept her psychic powers to mostly subtle and probing ones, because Telepathy is pretty awesome.


Adlan

Looks pretty good to me. I'd say whatever looks good on the model go with for equipment.

But also think about why, as a character Mira has a force sword, and where did she get her supression shieldfrom? Is it part of her ostentaious display, she normally walks around in gleaming armour, a big sword and shield to impress and scare those she is investigating, or is this purely her battle kit, and something like Kaled's undercover model is how she normally investigates?


Kaled

Quote from: Raellos on December 10, 2009, 03:06:10 PM
Not sure abou the stats, I've used the stats in the rulebook as a base, except pared back a bit.
I assume you've looked at this thread - it should give you a fair idea of what's appropriate for your character.
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Inquisitor Cade

The thing about particulary rare kit, in this case the force sword and storm shield is that, while it is perfectly plausable for an Inquisitor to own them, they are far from standard issue, so they a worth a  sentence or two when you flesh out the background to explain how she came by them.

If you ask me the stats are a bit high accross the board:
Looking at the Ws, that denotes serious expertise, almost swordsmaster level, and the S/T, fitter that a typical solider, I'd assume that close combat was her major focus when it comes to skill and training. Her Bs is fully compotent too though, and her Wp too is at a level that suggests psyhic power is her focus, though the powers  she has are simplistic ones. If Close combat is her focus I'd lose 10 from Bs and Wp.
Of course I'm 'reviewing blind' here, a backgroung in the imperial guard for example would explain the high Bs as well as the very high Wp. I think it is safe to assume however that her background involves the black ships primarily. As I don't know her background or expertise, I'll give my thoughts assuming she went blackships-acolyte-inquisitor, and that she focused equaly in combat a psychic power when training, s adjust accrdingly to her true past.

Ws/Bs, I'd expect about 60 in each (or 65/55 or 70/50 ...), fully competant at both or reasonable with one and highly skilled at the other.
S/T, I'd expect her to keep fit but not to lose too much time in the gym. 50's
I, With n particular reason fr it to be esspecially high or low, I'd place it at 70-80 just because that is the sort of level I'd expect from an Inquisitor.
Wp, an Inquisitor focusing on her mind more than a non-psyker  but not to the exclusion of anything else would, give her a Wp of about 85, barring other circumstances.
Sg, you need to be very smart to be and Inquisitor, at least 60, more likely 70-75, probably not more than 80.
Nv, bravery too is a prerequisite, so 70's is likely, 80's possible.
Ld, as the most important person on ant given planet (in theory) Inquisitors typically have high 70 Ld's or higher.
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Raellos

#7
Inquisitor Mira Elena

WS BS  S   T   I     Wp  Sg  Nv  Ld
68  56 58 56 74   72   76  84   78

How's that looking? Of course, her stats all depend on whatever the standards of the gaming group she ends up in are, but it would be good to know her "ideal" stats.

Her kit will be adressed when I get around to figuring out her background.

At this stage I will make her for fun, and then lend her to one of my mates who is going to uni next year, there's not an Inquisitor group around for hundreds of miles.

Kaled

Quote from: Raellos on December 11, 2009, 03:13:57 AM
How's that looking? Of course, her stats all depend on whatever the standards of the gaming group she ends up in are, but it would be good to know her "ideal" stats.

Her kit will be adressed when I get around to figuring out her background.
Ideally you should develop her background / model first,and only work out her profile when they're at least partially fixed.  Until you decide who she is, it's impossible to tell whether the stats are appropriate.
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QuoteUntil you decide who she is, it's impossible to tell whether the stats are appropriate.[/quote
Well said.

The stat line you've got there is entirely valid in that I'd look at it and believe it represented an Inquisitor, but when you have her character sorted it might not firt perfectly and need updating. I'm surprised by the higher Nv and the lower Wp. It isn't any less valid, in fact it makes her a more intregueing.
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Raellos

I really should get around to writing down my ideas in a useful format. Here we go.

Okay, with latent psychic powers she would have been taken by a Black Ship as a child, with her telepathic powers she probably would have been picked out for Inquisitorial training. Her powers are still developing, and you can see this with her willpower (room for improvement) and her limited telekinesis, which could burgeon in a later version of the character.

She's probably a tad too headstrong for her own good, hence the high nerve and focus on close combat. Possibly uses shows of force and fear as much, or more than subtlety. This may get her in trouble on occasion when the situation would prefer pragmatism. This might be interpreted as, or could just be plain arrogance.

I can't really think of anything for the force sword that isn't dull and overdone just yet, and the shield seems common enough that an Inquisitor would be able to access one easily, but I'll work on that.

From that I should be able to work out a good solid paragraph of information.

I'm also thinking that a cherubim would fit with the whole Fear of the Emperor/ ostentation / Blanchian Witch Hunter type thing she's got going on.

Inquisitor Cade

Quotewith her telepathic powers she probably would have been picked out for Inquisitorial training.

Probably isn't the right word, but I know what you mean.
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Kaled

Quote from: Raellos on December 11, 2009, 10:43:25 PM
I'm also thinking that a cherubim would fit with the whole Fear of the Emperor/ ostentation / Blanchian Witch Hunter type thing she's got going on.
The cherubs from the 40k range work nicely at 54mm - if you look in my gallery you ought the be able to find a picture of one next to my hammer-wielding Ordo Malleus Inquisitor.
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Raellos

#13
I just found him. You are right, they do fit well, and that one there is particularly macabre and disgusting.  I think I'd give it some sort of witch-finding ability, maybe Inquisitor Elena's sensory abilities aren't fully developed yet. It'd make the thing useful, but not overly powerful.

It was quite funny watching the pictures come up, I thought "why has he made the pictures so tiny...  Oh, there's another row" and they just kept coming. Quite the collection!

What's the (Naval?) officer with his coat over one shoulder? A bunch of Imperial Navy Armsmen led by an officer would make some good mooks if I ever get enough models together to introduce the game to my local club. And props for Ostrakov, it's an Eisenhorn conversion that just doesn't look like Eisenhorn!

Kaled

Quote from: Raellos on December 12, 2009, 11:54:13 AM
What's the (Naval?) officer with his coat over one shoulder? A bunch of Imperial Navy Armsmen led by an officer would make some good mooks if I ever get enough models together to introduce the game to my local club.
Thanks, glad you like my collection. The admiral is a barely converted Marshal Zhukov by Pegaso Models. As for Ostrakov, the fact that you don't think he looks like Eisenhorn shows that it's still possible to create interesting characters that don't look like the original model even given the reduced size of the GW range. A lot of people come to Inquisitor and assume that everyone's characters are going to look the same because the range is quite small, but there's no reason for that to be the case, even if you don't want to do any major conversion work.
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