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The 7 Swordsmen of Chaos

Started by Nevermore2010, March 03, 2011, 01:12:46 AM

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Necris

Malal is the god of self destruction the embodiment of Chaos' self destructive nature.

"Malal embodies the self-destructive aspect of Chaos turned upon itself. Even following Malal is an act of self-destruction, for the relationship between follower and patron is parasitical - servitude draining the very soul of the devotee until it withers away. Few would choose to follow such a god, certainly not for any promise of power."

The very nature of a sword of Malal would be to grant the wielder great power to visit the destruction of chaos upon it's enemies while it drains the life force from the wielder much akin to a suicide clock the use of a sword of malal would be a last resort finite thing

There is also the issue of Malal wanting only the destruction of all the other Chaos Gods so would naturally try and kill the others
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Nevermore2010

Think i'm gonna keep to the 7 deadly sins theme for the 7 wielded blades, the 8th blade i think should have been broken into peices, each segment containing a tiny fragment of the deamon. The 7 swordsmen, or rarther the deamons within can only be free'd from their imprisonment inside the blades if all 8 are brought together with hosts.

Perhaps a rouge inquisitor in the distant past who once was a host (until his own will was able to beat the deamons) broke his sword into fragments and scatered them across the imperium. I think my 8th sin will be Vengence, that way there will be 2 swords to each faction of Chaos. I think its safe to say the sword our hypothetical inquisitor fell prey to was the Pride Sword.

As much as I want to 40k the sins, I honestly think they are the aspects that Chaos feeds upon, so adding Knowledge and Curiosity (which i can Totally see the imperium viewing as bad) doesnt really feel like it ties into something the deamons can feed upon/control you by.

Here are my first choice of models:
Wrath


Vengence


Sloth


Lust


Greed


Envy


Still looking for a suitable Gluttony model... would have to be large, possibly even Fat, but without looking slow... any suggestions? Also thinking of switching the Greed and Envy models... or finding somthing more suitable for Envy...
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#17
Some Nice models, but personally, I would look for a sexy female to be the Slaaneshi Lust, Just a thought.
Something like a fat butcher might work for Gluttony, with a oversized cleaver???

Kaled

That's a nice set of models you've chosen, but I don't really see how they fit the sins. Maybe you could talk us through how you plan to 40k-ify and convert them to embody each sin?

Have you found suitable swords to represent each sin?

I also disagree with your assessment of curiosity/knowledge - such things fall into the province of Tzeentch and are most definitely things with which he can influence and corrupt mortals.
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Stormgrad

i like the idea of a daemon sword with domain over a specific thing the ability to feed a persons anger, greed, lust and pride. Taking after the god that closest resembles the sin they represent, I feel the key here is the sword the sword needs to represent gluttony could have loads of mouths sculpted onto it etc etc. The Swordsmen i think you need to represent the characters all of them at different points in there possession but the key is the sword it needs to closely represent the sin and you need to look at it and go that sword is gluttony that one is wroth that one is sloth 

Necris

I'd look at the key features of each god

I've been thinking of having a NPC /  PC chaos guy possessed of a Tzeentch daemon but instead of having the blade filled with all sorts of powers I was intending on the host expressing the powers and some form of mutation while the sword itself remains fairly mundane it is the power it allows the host the weild which is the true boon.

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Aurelius 12

I agree with Kaled, the models are rather nice, but dont really seem to fit with the sins yet. Plus if we're going down the pseudo-Christian route and need a reason for making knowledge a son you need look know further than Adam and Eve. The tree of Knowledge led to their casting out of Eden after all!
And the Saint did weep when she saw how lost the people were. Seven tears fell upon Gomorrah. Seven tears to wash away their sin. A deluge of heavenly tears drowned their world in an ocean of forgiveness. The people cleansed in a sea of nuclear fire.

Stormgrad

Thats given me a cool idea a sword made of wood with like a wooden texture as if it had been carved from the tree of knowledge (kind of apt since paper can be made from trees and books are the greatest source of knowledge in the 41st millennium). whoever has the sword should slowly go mad (assuming the sword contains all knowledge that is known and to be known) as it would be entirely impossible for someone to understand that knowledge, What if the sword is in the hands of someone from Baal but is currently spouting lost knowledge of the eldar if it was constantly whispering to you in eldar you would go mad


Alyster Wick

I may be running a little late for this conversation, but I'm going to urge you in the strongest terms to reconsider using a Christian based "7 deadly sins" theme.  It's a great concept, but you're appropriating things that are already canonically established. The chaos gods have their own sacred numbers already and 7 belongs to Nurgle.  While there's nothing inherently wrong with has 7 swordsmen I would argue that having a specific numerological attachment via Chaos to that number would require an adherence to establish canon which is:

Slaanesh - 6
Nurgle - 7
Khorne - 8
Tzeentch - 9

You could get more mileage out of this idea in a number of ways.  Have them be a Khornate cult devoted to 8 aspects of Khorne (Murder, Wrath, Mutilation, Slaughter, Bloodlust, Execution, Vengeance and Smithing). I made those up in about 30 seconds.  I may have run out of steam towards the end, but that idea can be applied to any of the chaos gods and their sacred numbers. 

If you wanted to include every power you could say that the bound daemons were servants of each god who formed an alliance to overthrow their masters but were laid low.  That also gives them focus and personality (what fun is a warband without an agenda?).

What would be the most fun in my opinion would be to create a minor pantheon of chaos powers perhaps even tied to a region in space (a minor warp entity could have been born due to an Exterminatus perhaps and they believe they can fully manifest somewhere on that planet).  Create your own entities that work within the framework of the established mythology, feel free to use the 7 Deadly sins as inspiration but don't port them so directly.

This is a great concept, but as proposed I feel that it's the equivalent of saying, "I've got a great idea for an imperial cult that devotes itself to the Emperor. They are led by a space Pope who is the direct mortal line to the Emperor's words and they reside on Mars." Interesting concept, but it steps all over what's already been established rather than meshing with it.

Since this is the modeling forum, I'll also say that the models look great but I don't think the sloth one is very representative of said sin.  I do find the idea of a Sloth entity being created at the peak of couch potato culture though...