Oblationist Inquisitor and bodyguards, 1st draft.

[GAZKUL]

Hey, I'm new to inquisitor, This is the current set up for an Oblationist and his bodyguard. Plaese reply with any tips on how i could improve them.

Uniform for entire mob:  Black cloaks and kinda arab style face coverings.

1.Nameless Inquisitor

WS  BS  S     T     I     WP     SG     NV     LD
50  90  50  70  80    200    80     200   90

Weapons+ armour: thick cloak, Carapice on chest and arms, Bolter-2 rlds, Autopistol- 2 rlds, knife. Maybe a deamonic weapon

Special Abilities: Deadeye shot, Nerves of Steel, Force of Will, True Grit.

2. Voluntary victim of the Obliterator Virus, stage 1

WS   BS   S    T       I    WP    SG    NV    LD
45    75    45  45    60   200     50    200     60

Weapons+ armour: Autogun- 2 rlds, Autopistiol- 2 Rlds, knife, Thick cloak, carapace on chest and arms.

Special Abilities; True Grit, Force of Will

A few other ideas: A Blank/ rougue psycher, a couple of desperados to bulk out the numbers.

The theory is that they consider themselves living martyrs i.e. the high willpower and nerve . Generallt aimed at shooting rather than combat though. Any advice would be much appreciated, Cheers, GAZ out

[Acolyte Havlan Tome]

The willpower is probably still to high even if they do class themselves as martrys . Only one of the I, SG and LD should be even in the 80's really so choose one to concentrate on. The voluntary victim should have his bs increased when he reaches stage two and the virus shouldn't have actually affected him yet if he is only in stage one but other than that good idea. Can't wait to see pics of the models

Well done

P.S 54 or 28mm

[DapperAnarchist]

The concept, such as it is, is interesting - but we could do with knowing a lot more, like what were these people before they became Oblationists, etc.

Also - the stats... well, I concur with AHT, and go further - I can think of no situation in which a stat of 200 is appropriate. If anything reaches that level (Greater Daemon, C'Tan, Phoenix Lord, etc) they pass beyond stats and into the area of GM fiat...

The Oblationists are great though, so I want to hear more.

[Kaled]

Hey, I'm new to inquisitor, This is the current set up for an Oblationist and his bodyguard. Plaese reply with any tips on how i could improve them.

You really need to write some proper background for them - it doesn't have to be hugely detailed at this stage, or run to thousands of words, but you do need to tell us enough to get across the idea of who these characters are.  For example, you've mentioned the Inquisitor's philosophy and a bit about how he dresses, but what Ordo does he belong to?  How does he operate?  Where does he operate?  How did he become an Inquisitor?  Where did he grow up?  And so on.

WS  BS  S     T     I     WP     SG     NV     LD
50  90  50  70  80    200    80     200   90

Well as we have no background for this guy it's difficult to properly critique him, but the obvious questions are why are his Wp and Nv above the maximum level of an unaugmented human?  Secondly, with stats that high he's probably not going to be much fun to play (or play against) - it might be worth you looking at the 'Conclave Standard Character' thread for some ideas on appropriate stats, or read the guide linked to via the 'Inquisitor' link at the top of the page.

2. Voluntary victim of the Obliterator Virus, stage 1

Again, needs background - without it there's no way to tell if the stats are appropriate or not.

A few other ideas: A Blank/ rougue psycher, a couple of desperados to bulk out the numbers.

Maybe as you write out the background for the Inquisitor you'll come up with ideas for the rest of the background.  How does the Inquisitor get around?  Does he have a warp capable ship?  If so, he could be accompanied by a mutated Navigator.  Does he have connections with the Mechanicus?  If so, maybe a Tech-Priest.  How does he control his infected retinue?  Psychic means?  If so, maybe add a psyker?  Once you start answering questions about who your character is and how he operates, then the rest of his warband will probably fall into place quite easily.

Hope that helps,
- Dave

[GAZKUL]

Okay, the plan is to go with 54mm and use the black cloak uniform to make up for my lack of modelling skill as most of the models will be hidden by the cloaks and masks.

Background: A mysterious member of the Ordo Malleus, How he became a member of the Inquisition and his past are largely unknown. A masked figure who strikes swiftly and efficently from a distance before dissapearing into the shadows with his prize as swiftly as he came. Recent activity has been reported in the Necromundan sector  after a series of clashes with members of the Thorian belief, his motives remain unknown as no one has been able to get close enough to question him.


The Stats: the Wp and Nv will get lovered in the near future as they were there to represent the fact that as they have voulentary sacrificed themselves for humanity dead will hold no surprises for them.


Obliterator: still working on it.

Thanks for the advice, will post pics when i get round to doing some modelling (next time i get paid). Still looking for opinions and tips, cheers.

[Alta]

A bit more background about him that Gazkul missed out:
He believes in using the power of chaos and the warp to destroy chaos. He also likes collecting chaos artifacts. For examle in a game we played against a zombie horde, the only reason he was there was to get the chaos artifact that he believed was controlling the zombies.

For the Inquisitor I would say if he has become that good at shooting he would have neglected other areas, so his WS would probably become quite a bit lower, and maybe also his S / T / I. Also if he is truely dedicated to martyrdom I doubt that his Sagacity would be that high. I also agree about the incredibly high WP and NV. As he is human I would suggest an upper limit of 100.
Since he is a member of the Ordo Malleus, if you give him a daemonic weapon I would suggest giving it Daemonbane. For the actual weapon, I don't know... maybe a flail? To me that seems like the type of weapon that he would use.

I don't really know what the obliterator virus is so I don't really know the accuracy of the stats of his body guard...

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[DapperAnarchist]

In MarcoSkoll's PDF Archive (linked in the Sticky at the top of this board) there's PrecinctOmega's take on Obliterators who aren't Astartes...

[Alyster Wick]

I'm really intrigued by the Oblationist cult as it pertains to Imperial characters.  Does the Inquisitor plan on subjecting himself at one point, or does he just experiment on individuals with it (to draw a more familiar parallel, like a scientist attempting to harness and control a zombie virus)? How does he handle his subjects "turning?" 

For that matter, does the Obliterator virus "turn" people?  I would assume so, as it's a chaotic virus which bestows power.  It would seem counter intuitive to bestow a gift on an unworthy subject.

Anyway, all thoughts worth considering.  I like the idea of these individuals hiding their mutations under robes.  As a suggestion, you could sidestep many potential issues by making this warband mechanicus based rather than Inquisitorial.  That way the obliteratory heresy could be mitigated by beliefs that the virus was the work of the machine god as it brought physical specimens closer to oneness with their machinery. 

For that matter, a techpriest with the obliterator virus could be interesting (especially with Kaled's new techpriest article).  Can he randomly generate new mechandrites?  Can electoo grafts be reconfigured for unimagined purposes? Could make for an intense chore/pleasant randomness for a GM.

[GAZKUL]

@Alta, For personal preferences i am theming them to be almost entirely ranged with very limited combat ability, I may experiment with deamonic guns and ammo. The Inquisitor has an obsession with maximum effiecincy, this may be a reason why he will probably include a techpriest in his mob to indicate that he has strong ties with the Adeptus Mechanicus.

@ Alyster Wick, Still unsure of how to tie in the Obliterator virus, They probably won't be Mechanicus as it limits the sort of followers he could recruit.

Thanks to everone and keep the tips coming.

[Kaled]

They probably won't be Mechanicus as it limits the sort of followers he could recruit.

How does it limit the sort of followers he has? Sure they may be different in the details, a skitarius rather than a guardsman, a provost rather than an arbitor, a criminal menial - the underground scum of a forge world rather than scum from an imperial world, and so on - but if you think a Mechanicus themed warband is limited then you're mistaken. The Mechanicus have thousands of worlds and installations across the galaxy, and as they run their worlds almost independently of the Imperium so have many similar institutions which can be explored as the basis for characters.

[DapperAnarchist]

Indeed, including the desmenes and you get nearly any character type you want. I have a feral warrior character who sits nicely in a Mechanicus warband - he's from a Skittari Auxilia, basically cannon fodder rounded up from the populated side of a mining world. You can also have medieval or Renaissance style nobility, from the Knight Worlds, traders and guilders who have been brought in to act as spokesmen for the Mechanicus, liasons from any of a dozen different organisations...

[GAZKUL]

like i said it's still in the planning stages so it may be mechanicus eventually.

just written a profile for a follower.

WS    BS     S       T    I    Wp    Sg    Nv    Ld
35     75     55   55   60   40    40    40    40

Armour and waepons: Cloak+ mask, Carapice on arms and chest, Autogun-2 rlds, Autopistol- 2 rlds, Knife.

Right handed.
Special: Rock Steady Aim

[Acolyte Havlan Tome]

I know this is really picky but the follower doesn't really have any character in his stats or equipment.....nothing that makes him STAND OUT

[Kaled]

Indeed, including the desmenes and you get nearly any character type you want. I have a feral warrior character who sits nicely in a Mechanicus warband - he's from a Skittari Auxilia, basically cannon fodder rounded up from the populated side of a mining world. You can also have medieval or Renaissance style nobility, from the Knight Worlds, traders and guilders who have been brought in to act as spokesmen for the Mechanicus, liasons from any of a dozen different organisations...

Exactly - the lack of imagination most people have around the Mechanicus was one of the reasons I wrote my DM article on the Mechanicus.  I concentrated on the Tech-Priests for that article, but I've considered doing a follow up which would concentrate on those not initiated into the priesthood - various types of skitarii, menials (not just those who labour on a production line), servitors and so on.  The population of knight worlds would fit into that as well.  Not sure I'll ever get around to it though...

I know this is really picky but the follower doesn't really have any character in his stats or equipment.....nothing that makes him STAND OUT

I agree - without background, or some indication of who this guy is then there's nothing there for people to comment on - it's just a fairly standard profile with no flesh on the bones.  Not that the profile needs to be make more complicated - a character can have a very simple profile and still be interesting by virtue of his background.

Do you have models in mind for these guys?  Maybe sharing how these characters look would give people a better idea of who they're supposed to be.

[DapperAnarchist]

If I wasn't already working on/had promised something like four articles, plus a bunch of real life stuff, I would consider trying to write something for the Knight Worlds...