Conclave / Carthax Sector wiki?

[MarcoSkoll]

Just a quick one before I get back to stuff. What about the idea of Conclaver pages?

I'm not thinking any more than associating username/real name, a few quick details and a picture, but it would help people keep track of who the people they'd met on event days were on the forums.
If you wanted to take it a bit further, it could also act as an index of their characters, and list the events the player had been to as well.

If not, then it could be useful to add a "Who am I?" sticky on the forums somewhere, where users post a portrait and their real name. I know I've had cases where not being present when someone says "Hey, I'm X" means I've only worked out who some people were at the events by their models!

[RobSkib]

I'm not so sure that having 'clavers identities on the wiki is such a good idea, partly for security reasons, but also because those who don't have their identities up there might feel like they are less important for whatever reasons.

I do think its an idea having a thread on the forums however - photo, name, username and 'signature' models, just to kickstart the 'oooh you're THAT guy!' memory cells.

[Kaled]

I've just remembered that PrecinctOmega's old site Within-Without-Beyond used to have a page that linked to bits that worked great on 54mm models and was thinking that we could do the same on Carthax. Of course GW stopping their bits service makes getting hold of individual bits more difficult, but it's not impossible and a directory of useful bits would be good inspiration for newcomers and useful for veteran too.

[Macabre]

Of course GW stopping their bits service makes getting hold of individual bits more difficult, but it's not impossible and a directory of useful bits would be good inspiration for newcomers and useful for veteran too.

Probably one of many reasons why eBay is moving more citadel miniatures than GW these days :p

[Heroka Vendile]

could put the manufacturers/supplies list from the P&M up as a page as well

[MarcoSkoll]

While we're discussing scale, I'm considering whether it would be a good idea to have a page that tries to address the 54mm vs. 28mm issue.

It should definitely be in an unbiased manner that tries to debunk the myths and warn about the pitfalls of either scale, but it's something that comes up on the forums often enough that it's really worth just having a link we can throw up to avoid having to explain the whole thing over and over.

I'm happy to write the first draft of said page.

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To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

Still, that gives me an idea! Is there any real reason a combined 28/54 event couldn't be run?
Okay, the different scales couldn't play on the same tables (although players wouldn't necessarily have to stick to one scale), but that doesn't mean the narratives and scoring couldn't be woven together.
Heck, the way I ran the finale at the Autumn Conclave doesn't even necessarily need tables to be at the same scale if models aren't moving between them!

It'd probably have to be after Molotov's INQvitational (possibly even in 2013), but this community would surely benefit from being less fractured over matters of scale.

[greenstuff_gav]

54mm vs. 28mm issue ... that it splits the players

i'm a fan of bot; hence a few of my characters (and several Standard ones) are in 28mm and 54mm

[Kaled]

I'm happy to write the first draft of said page.

Sounds like a good idea - write a draft and I'm sure we can get it into a form that both halves of the community are happy with.

Still, that gives me an idea! Is there any real reason a combined 28/54 event couldn't be run?

I don't see any insurmountable issue. The difficulty would be in making it feel like one event rather than two being run at the same time. I've had similar thoughts about the Grand Tournament - no reason that couldn't be done at both scales but I'm not sure we'd get enough attendees for it to be worthwhile doing it at both scales.

[Necris]

To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

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To be honest, my biggest gripe over the issue is that it splits the players, meaning that rather than one unified community, we've got two sub-communities who are not unknown for stereotyping the other as either elitist purists or impulsive powergamers. And that's even ignoring the difficulty of playing together.

Clearly when combining the scales the 28mm minis are just really far away 54mm minis

[MarcoSkoll]

I'm a fan of both

I don't doubt that some people are. But for the most part, it's something of a divide.

I was looking on Ammobunker, which has a plentiful Inq28 community - but very little of that carries over here. Even assuming that people didn't care about the other scale (which I think isn't the case - the success of Mol's thread rather disproves that), there's still the potential for discussing rules and background.

Personally, I'd play at 28mm as well if the opportunities provided themselves, but as it is, they haven't.

The difficulty would be in making it feel like one event rather than two being run at the same time.

I feel that can be handled. Even if it does come across as slightly divided, it'd still be an opportunity to get people who appreciate the same game together for the day.

As far as player numbers, given that Molotov has a reasonable attendance for his INQvitational (although I know a few of those are also 54mm players), I don't think we'd have too much worry if we publicised it in both communities, particularly if a few players came equipped for both scales. It might not work so well for the GT, as that does rely a certain amount on the whole intermixing to make sure that people who vote above and below average sort of cancel out, and you wouldn't really want it to turn into a 28 vs. 54 thing.

Clearly when combining the scales the 28mm minis are just really far away 54mm minis

Small... Far Away...

[Kaled]

I've added a new section to Carthax for scenarios and story encounters.  I'm not entirely happy with those names, but basically scenarios are 'bare-bones' sets of set-up conditions and objectives that can be used by almost any warbands on any terrain (e.g. the types of games we often play in the first rounds of something like the Summer Conclave), whereas story encounters are more specific encounters that may require certain character archetypes to be present or need particular terrain or NPCs, and are likely to have much more of a plot element to them and are much more likely to be used as an integral part of an ongoing campaign.

I'm also tempted to add a third section, maybe called something like 'Schemes', for objectives that can be given to just one player.  They could then be combined in games, so the GM might give one player the 'Leave No One Behind' objective of getting all his characters (or their corpses) across the board, and give the other players the 'Treasure Hunt' objective where they have to find something on the board and return it to their deployment zone (or the second player might get the 'Kidnap' objective where he has to capture a member of the opposing warband).

Anyway, please post any scenario / story ideas you have on Carthax.  I've posted a few to get us started and have created a template for us to use to ensure some consistency, but if your idea needs additional headings then feel free to adapt it as necessary.

- Dave

[Draco Ferox]

Well, I have applied for membership, and was wondering about planetary data pages. Now I realise that this could easily become over-complicated, but maybe just a few background bits about planets on which campaigns took place (and will take place) would make people more able to visualise the campaign when they're reading the reports.

[Kaled]

I've just approved your membership. Feel free to upload information about planets - they should go under the page for the appropriate sub-sector (or sector if it's a planet in a neighbouring sector).

[MarcoSkoll]

If any of you has applied to the Carthax Wiki as "Cam1229ownz", can you tell me please? I've got a request sitting on the list from a username I don't recognise.

Our new criteria for wiki membership demand that all prospective members are sponsored by three full forum members or one admin... nah, I'm kidding (although that would be cool) - I just want to have heard a "hello" from people first, it'll save us dealing with trolls or spambots.

In any case, I'd welcome people using the message form if they're applying under a less than obvious username and telling me/Kaled who they are on the forums.

[Knobby2]

Spent a bit of time reading th wiki, and I love what you all post

Just a bit of a query really, can anyone give me a quick rundown of how too use wiki spaces, ive tried in the past and the results were well below average,

Just need it explained in brief