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My First Warband

Started by Hiver20, April 01, 2013, 11:57:13 PM

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Hiver20

Hi there since my last posts I've ummed and ahhed over my leader to find that I will have a Inquisitior that actually doesn't do much dirty work and lets his Acolyte and her team do it so this is what my Warband consists of;

Naval Officer Lieutenant Lexus Maxima (Acolyte)
Wargear
Carapace Armour
Lazuruss Patern Hellpistol
Chainsword
Voice Thrower
Frag Grenades x3
Abilities
First Strike
Sure Strike
Fast Draw

Ennuciator Jeremiah Newton
Wargear
Carapace Armour
Psykanna Mercy Blade
Sword
Suppression Shield
Bolt Pistol
Abilities
Rock Steady Aim
Pisessence
Witch-Hound
Psychic Powers
Mind Scan
Speak Truth
Punish Mind
Telepathy

Stormtrooper Derek Morgan
Wargear
Carapace Armour
Enclosed Helm with Rebreather and Range Finder
Hellgun
Knife
Abilities
Blade Master
Hipshooting
Quickload

Its only a rough idea of what they would have and also what they can do as each one will mainly focused on particular areas of combat that would coincide with the Istvaanian ideals of what does kill you makes you stronger sort of thing:-)

Hiver20
What's this thing you call a Sky? I've never seen the Sky before. So this is the Sky? Where's the ceiling then?

Koval

We'll need stats before we can decide what's what; however, I will point out that three characters wearing carapace armour strikes me as a bit much.

There are also a lot of things that look like they're either custom abilities, or from supplements I don't recall off the top of my head. Some elaboration may be required.

I'll be able to respond better after work.

Kaled

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Quote from: Koval on April 02, 2013, 06:38:02 AM
We'll need stats before we can decide what's what; however, I will point out that three characters wearing carapace armour strikes me as a bit much.
I thought that too. Flak armour is fine for most characters, and a lot of my characters don't even wear that much armour. Also remember that a character doesn't have to wear the same armour on every location - so you could have flak armour with a carapace breastplate for example. Also don't feel you have to stick to the armour values in the rule book - feel free to vary them, so you could create light carapace armour if you wanted.

They're also very heavily armed with a lot of powerful weapons - and where one only has a knife, he has Blademaster which makes it really quite a powerful weapon.
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Inquisitor - Blood Bowl - Malifaux - Fairy Meat

Hiver20

Thanks for your input ;D,

Lexus is a exceptional swordswoman while also being a competent leader, the abilities and her gun are from the Istvaanian sourcebook.

Jeremiah Newton is a Ennuciator from the sanctioning brand PDF and I've recently downloaded the the improved armory so I'll be using it as a light Bolt pistol which is weaker.

Then I'll be using the veteran guardsman and using the improved armory again for making a Hellgun.

Also the armour will not the same on all locations its just I kinda only put one armour but I'll end up doing a few different armour on each location, so it won't be all Carapace armour.

I still am tweaking the abilities and stats for each character but I was just hoping that people would be able to suggest some good stats for each character?

Thanks again Hiver20
What's this thing you call a Sky? I've never seen the Sky before. So this is the Sky? Where's the ceiling then?

Kaled

We could suggest stats that we think are appropriate for those characters, but they'd be based on our assumptions rather than on how you see the characters.

Thus you have a couple of options - either write more about your characters so we know them well enough to suggest appropriate stats, or look at some of the guides to stats that people have written (such as the one I started on Carthax) and have a go yourself, then compare them to other people's characters and see how they look.

Probably the best option is to do both - write a short bio of your characters and give them stats, and then we'll be able to point out where your stats don't seem to match the character as you've described him.
I like to remember things my own way... Not necessarily the way they happened.

Inquisitor - Blood Bowl - Malifaux - Fairy Meat

Koval

Quote from: Kaled on April 02, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
We could suggest stats that we think are appropriate for those characters, but they'd be based on our assumptions rather than on how you see the characters.

Thus you have a couple of options - either write more about your characters so we know them well enough to suggest appropriate stats, or look at some of the guides to stats that people have written (such as the one I started on Carthax) and have a go yourself, then compare them to other people's characters and see how they look.

Probably the best option is to do both - write a short bio of your characters and give them stats, and then we'll be able to point out where your stats don't seem to match the character as you've described him.
This times forty thousand.

We can't exactly write characters for you, Hiver -- let's be honest, they wouldn't really be your characters if we did. On the other hand, doing all the legwork yourself will give you total ownership of your characters, as well as giving you experience of the creative process that, essentially, drives the Inquisitor game. And in any event, making (benign) mistakes is a good way to learn.

Hiver20

Thank you so much for all the help you are giving me ;D as if I am totally honest not the best with doing backgrounds on anything :-[ I do as I prefer the modeling process and painting stuff, so it kinda hard for me to really come up with anything good that is why I am trying really hard on just making these three characters. :).

So here is my Acolyte

Name: Lexus Maxima

Home World: Gaia V

Age: 50 Imperial Years Standard

Occupation: Naval Officer of the 27th Gaian Warrior Fleet

Rank/Title: Lieutenant, Noblewoman of Maxima

Current Location: Celestial Shroud, Bulk Troop Carrier

Training/Education: Trained in mainly Close Combat, with a small amount of Ranged Combat. Taught about the Imperium by the Tutors of the Schoola Progienum.

Personal Armaments: Chainsword (Gift from Father), Family Heirloom Laspistol (Heavy Military Magazine, Standard Muzzle, Short Pattern Barrel, 16 Megathules Lasing Chamber, Thacian Discharge Generator, Duelling Grip, Concealable Frame), Carapace Armour on Chest, Left Leg, Flak Armour on every location except Abdomen.

Personal Skills: Fast Draw, Sure Strike, Leader

Lexus when she was 13 she caught in a riot and was attacked but was able to defend herself with a piece of pipe. Afterwards she was found by her Father who was tasked with putting a stop to the riot with his ships new recruits, to find that his daughter was fighting at the forefront of a group of civilians protecting the local Adeptus Arbites building. Soon after Lexus was enrolled into the Schoola Progenium to be trained as a warrior, once her training had finished Lexus was sent to her posting on the Bulk Troop Carrier Celestial Shroud, where she meets Inquisitior Luther Nexus who is a Istvaanian, who actually started the riot on Gaia V Lexus's home planet. He soon saw that she was a capable fighter and leader, his perfect Acolyte.

WS 65 BS 45 S60 T60 I70 Wp60 Sg60 Nv60 Ld70
What's this thing you call a Sky? I've never seen the Sky before. So this is the Sky? Where's the ceiling then?

Koval

Having carapace on just one leg seems a little strange. Covering everything else (including her head) except her abdomen (!?) with flak armour also creates a very weird image in my head. I trust you have a model in mind?

I should point out that if someone's been enrolled in a Schola Progenium, they're usually an orphan, and usually an orphan whose parents were loyal and dutiful Imperial servants. I have two characters for whom that wasn't quite the case* (see below), but with Lexus, the crucial obstacle is that she still had a father. This isn't hugely believable considering the basic premise behind the Schola, but I see no way around it if we're going to avoid the cliché of "my main character is an orphan with a dark past". I should, however, point out that the other main way into the Navy is to be part of a very powerful noble family, and receive a commission as a midshipman, most likely by way of the Governer or a senior planetary/Naval official (and probably through a load of aristocratic horse-trading).

She also isn't much of a Naval officer if she's being "trained as a warrior" -- that, to me as a reader, says she's a Storm Trooper rather than a Naval lieutenant. She'll need command skills in her background (you've given her Leader, but her background has no indication of why she'd be a leader) and a whole boatload of arrogance and/or ambition -- more of the former if she's from a noble background, and more of the latter if she's from the Schola.

Her stats seem sensible enough but I'd raise her BS, maybe drop her S and I a tad, and bump that Nv score up a bit -- she's supposed to be an officer, and in any case the Schola Progenium will teach you how to shoot straight. You'll also want to juggle the numbers a little, as you've fallen into the "multiple of 5" trap; we have ten digits, so use them.


*To illustrate my point with examples: Rosheine Macauley and Alice Fenn are my aforementioned special cases. Alice was indeed an orphan, but she had an extended family that ultimately couldn't support her, so she was given over to a Schola on that basis; on the other hand, Rosheine got arrested for murder at nine years old and was sent to a Schola for "correction", while the Arbites fabricated her "death".

Colin747

Quote from: Koval on April 02, 2013, 10:37:47 PM
Having carapace on just one leg seems a little strange. Covering everything else (including her head) except her abdomen (!?) with flak armour also creates a very weird image in my head. I trust you have a model in mind?

I'm assuming the idea of the carapace on left leg is the old dueling idea where you've one side that's predominately facing the enemy and is thus heavier protected?

Koval

If that's the case, surely we'd expect to see it on the left arm as well, together with a relevant note in Lexus' background.

Hiver20

Name: Lexus Maxima

Age: 50 Imperial Years Standard

Occupation: Naval Officer of the 27th Gaian Warrior Fleet

Rank/Title: Lieutenant

Current Location: Celestial Shroud, Bulk Troop Carrier

Training/Education: Trained in mainly Close Combat, with a small amount of Ranged Combat. Taught about the Imperium by the Tutors of the Schoola Progienum.

Personal Armaments: Sword, Laspistol (Heavy Military Magazine, Standard Muzzle, Short Pattern Barrel, 16 Megathules Lasing Chamber, Thacian Discharge Generator, Duelling Grip, Concealable Frame), Average Bionic Left Arm (Str 30),Carapace Armour on Chest, Left Leg and Left Arm, Flak Armour on every location except Abdomen and Head.

Personal Skills: Fast Draw, Sure Strike, Leader

Lexus when she was 13 she caught in a riot and was attacked but was able to defend herself. Afterwards she was found by the local Enforcers fighting at the forefront of a group of civilians protecting the local Adeptus Administration building. Soon after Lexus was enrolled into the Schoola Progenium to be trained as a Swordwoman and a leader of men, once her training had finished Lexus was sent to her posting on the Bulk Troop Carrier Celestial Shroud, where on her way to the fleet meeting point the Celestial Shroud was attacked by a Blood Pact Brigade where she was tested in the fires of battle though she was able to defend the ships enginrium deck, while defending it she lost her left forearm, but because her steadfast actions her commanding officer made sure that she had it replaced with a bionic arm and also the CO promoted Lexus to Lieutenant in charge of Security, once the Celestial Shroud had arrived at its predestined translation point she was asked to acompany her CO to meet the mastermind behind the whole operation, Inquisitior Luther Nexus of the Ordos Malleus, of the Istvaanian faction.

WS66 BS50 S59 T60 I68 Wp67 Sg68 Nv65 Ld69

what do you think of the new improved version input is welcome

Hiver20
What's this thing you call a Sky? I've never seen the Sky before. So this is the Sky? Where's the ceiling then?

Koval

Again, you appear to have gotten your Naval ranks muddled -- the job of looking after security would belong to a boatswain, or similar warrant officer, under the jurisdiction of an Officer of the Watch. Lexus, as a midshipman turned junior lieutenant, is ostensibly too new to her job to be an Officer of the Watch (though a more senior Lieutenant would be an appropriate fit for the role). A lieutenant would probably form part of the bridge crew instead, most likely acting as the ship's XO. (Keep in mind that in most modern navies, the naval rank of Lieutenant is equivalent to the army rank of Captain.)

You've also misinterpreted the Schola Progenium again, from the look of things -- it's intended to turn out well-rounded servants of the Imperium who later get the opportunity to specialise (for example, as Commissar cadets, Adepta Sororitas novitiates, and the like). Lexus may very well display an aptitude for melee combat while she's being educated, but the drill abbots wouldn't designate her as a "swordswoman in training" from day one; a Schola education is too rigorous for that sort of rash decision. Imagine a boarding grammar-school with heavy levels of religious indoctrination, and the usual GrimDark on which the setting runs. Oh, and your school PE lessons are combat drills.

Why bring the Blood Pact into it? It's not necessary. Why not just use a more generic bunch of miscreants instead? Space pirates do exist in this setting -- the Rogue Trader core rulebook even tells us what kinds of ships pirate warbands might command. Make something up, it's more fun. (It also gets you away from the Sabbat Worlds; using an established world or set of worlds tends to be rather frowned upon in these parts, ditto a faction like the Blood Pact -- they're Abnett's creation*, not yours.)

As for her game profile, you might want to raise her BS and Ld a bit further, and lower her Sg a tad (because going from 60 to 68 is a bit of a jump; 64 should be fine). The rest looks more sensible.


*And it's rare that you'l hear me sticking up for Dan Abnett of all people.

Colin747

Quote from: Koval on April 03, 2013, 07:21:25 PM
A lieutenant would probably form part of the bridge crew instead, most likely acting as the ship's XO. (Keep in mind that in most modern navies, the naval rank of Lieutenant is equivalent to the army rank of Captain.)

I can't comment for 40K setting but in the modern Royal Navy the XO is second in command and normally the rank of Commander, would she really be this important as a junior lieutenant?

Koval

Maybe not if she's a junior lieutenant -- if so, Lexus would end up with a fairly minor role* -- but a more senior one would indeed be an XO for a small escort vessel. Per Battlefleet Koronus, Commanders have overall command of a frigate instead of being XOs like in the Royal Navy.

*Battlefleet Koronus suggests "commanding small craft, boarding parties, or press gangs" as suitable roles for a junior lieutenant. Said source also tells us that lieutenants can be XOs for a frigate, COs for a system defence monitor, or a crew member on a capital ship's bridge. Oddly enough, it also gives us the "lord-lieutenant" rank (presumably the Imperial Navy's version of a Lieutenant-Commander), putting these guys as a cruiser's XO.

Hiver20

Thank you again,
you would think with me doing three years of college learning about the Public Services I would know my Navy and Military ranks a bit better :P

I shall have Lexus as a Junior Lieutenant and she is in charge of a escort vessel which the Inquisitior would use for transporting the Warband.

And she would be attacked by void pirates that thought to take on the Imperial might.

WS66 BS53 S59 T60 I68 Wp67 Sg64 Nv65 Ld72

Hopefully this is more cannon with the Dark times

Hiver20
What's this thing you call a Sky? I've never seen the Sky before. So this is the Sky? Where's the ceiling then?