Autumn Conclave 2013 - WHW 28th September

[Koval]

As long as we avoid the 14th like the plague, I'm happy with whichever date they give us.

[Molotov]

I'm aware of bunkers resilience to inq54 and duel events as a whole but if it was marketed as a seperate inq28 campaign running on the same day as a different inq54 campaign you may get some extra people attending.

I'm not saying it will work but it could help by just organising two events for the same day, if I was certain I could attend I'd offer to organise the 28mm campaign but might be too late in the day for a September event it would also depend in the bunker organising events at the opposite end of the month to conclave too

"The Bunker" has nothing against Inquisitor. There is a Specialist Games section where Inquisitor is warmly welcomed, alongside Epic, Mordheim, Battlefleet Gothic and Necromunda. Nobody would scorn any poster that chose to post 54mm models there. The admins of the board chose to create an INQ28 section to help the nascent community of posters interested in that topic. They haven't had much more involvement than that.

I'd love to know what comments were being made,

At the IGT there were lots of positive comments made for both scales and the main negative issue discussed was the abrasive attitude of some people (not present at the gt) about them not attending events if there was duel scale at all.

As a 54mm gamer that moved to 28mm in the hopes of finding more people to play a game i love against I found I was left on the sidelines at the few inq28 events I've attended. Trying to shoehorn my way into a closed narrative against players who'd already pre arranged their games before coming to the event, I fed my warband simply used as an aggressor or left without any directed objective which made the last event I attended dull and boring. I personally find 54mm more open and accepting gaming group and from my personal experience 28mm a much more closed door exclusive club.

Regarding the narrative aspect most of the conclave events take place in the carthaxian sector, as far as I'm aware the last few events have had situations revolving in the sector, the problem the conclave has is we can't guarantee who will turn up at events, we don't know which warbands will be in attendance etc for example one event I might decide to take Necris, another I might play Holister both have their own agendas within the sector and the feel of the event will depend on who steps forward. It is much easier to plot a narrative when you have a select number of people.

I can only guess who you're talking about from your post, but I certainly have never said I would never attend a dual-scale event simply because it is dual-scale. In some senses, integration would be a desirable goal.

I don't see there being any barrier for a player with the right mindset if they wanted to play INQ28. It simply requires being sociable and proactive. I don't see us being closed - we had five new players at this year's INQvitational.

[MarcoSkoll]

I can only guess who you're talking about from your post, but I certainly have never said I would never attend a dual-scale event simply because it is dual-scale.

I'd rather not see this derailed...

... but I can quote PDH on the matter: "I'd prefer to keep the two scales separate for events."
I do admit that's only one person, but there are very few people that have given any hard feedback at all regarding why attempts at dual scale events are struggling to be so.

I don't see us being closed - we had five new players at this year's INQvitational.

It's certainly possible to break into the 28mm community, but the nature of an invitational event does mean there is at least some inherent degree of exclusivity.

[Cortez]

Any weekend in September is good for me. Needs to be a Saturday though  .

Now I just need to create some extra hours in the day to get some models finished...started or whatever.

[Kaled]

I'm still around, although I admit my enthusiasm for Inquisitor has waned somewhat recently, so have been concentrating on other games.  I'll more than likely still attend an event if one is going on, but maybe someone else can organise it?

[Necris]

Likewise I don't want to see the thread derailed anymore than it has been if you'd like to talk about this more Mol drop me a PM

[MarcoSkoll]

I'll more than likely still attend an event if one is going on, but maybe someone else can organise it?

I can offer to have some part - but I'd genuinely like to have an excuse to actually finish some models, so I don't really want to get roped into a whole day of GMing (or weeks of prep work).

But I can at least initiate some discussion!

One of the criticisms I heard of the Carthaxian narratives when I was at the INQvitational was the limited continuity in the plots.
This is sort of a natural consequence of having alternating writers (whereas the big Dalthan events have generally got Molotov's involvement) and does at least mean there's less continuity lockout... but I am wondering if that's a suggestion we want to pick up on.

Are there consequences of earlier events that we want to explore? Some of the things that came up when I was talking with Koval is what effects the growth of the Antonine cold trade might've had or the chaotic rioting that arose after the (apparent) death of Saint Aderyn having weakened parts of the Cuir subsector.

Just thoughts...

[greenstuff_gav]

i may have a campaign fitting the end of Cold Trade (if someone'd remind me how that went; i apparently didnt do a writeup ) ... i may even be convinced to run the day if someone else organises a date (curse my crippling inability to use telephonic devices!) ...

[Bloodpact]

Im only busy on the weekend of 21st/22nd. The rest im free. Angstrom has a couple of new pals who are ready to do the masters bidding.

[MarcoSkoll]

someone else organises a date (curse my crippling inability to use telephonic devices!) ...

Right, despite my own phobia of the telephone, I rang WHW.

Firstly, they are still happy to have Inquisitor events up there.

After that - I didn't enquire about the 14th or the 21st, as some people have already ruled out those dates*, but they currently have eight 6-by-4s and all their feature tables available for the 7th and no bookings for the 28th at all.

So, we have a choice of the 7th and 28th. Caveats are that the 7th has WH40K Battle Brothers on (so will be noisy) and the 28th is the Games Day weekend (so will be quiet, but some people might prefer to be at GD).
If not instructed as to a preference, I will probably book the 7th in the next few days. I'd prefer the extra modelling time, but we'll get to be more conspicuous on the 7th.

*I have also realised the 21st/22nd is the Severn Valley Railway's Autumn Gala; it's not certain if the family is going this year, but I don't want to rule out going and playing steam trains unless necessary.

[greenstuff_gav]

7th sounds good to me; unless i hear otherwise i'll start writing the days' games now .. who ran Cold Trade? Val Helser?

[Koval]

Of the two dates, I'd personally prefer the 28th, but I can do either.

[MarcoSkoll]

@Gav: It was indeed Van Helser. However, I understand he is still without internet, so getting hold of him if you need to might be interesting.

@ Koval: From a personal perspective, I too would prefer the 28th, but it's sort of asking it to bite us in the arse if we do schedule with GD the day after.

[Necris]

If I can make it the 28th is prolly better for me,

[Bloodpact]

Either date is cool with me.

Do people still go to Games Day? The only reason i used to go was to get pre-release models and see exclusive sneak peeks, but with the GW clampdown and the rise of the cameraphone/internet forum combo, i dont see much point. Except to get the new Horus Heresy campaign book a week or two early!