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Character Idea

Started by Nevermore2010, March 22, 2010, 02:40:32 AM

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Nevermore2010

Ok, this was just a spit ball idea me and a few friends threw together, we wanted to have a character who got his hands dirty, having a support structure in place to aid his work. After deciding to base him on a knife using assassin, we created a very basic background and character premise. Seeing as this is still a work in progress we're open to minor changes. Also... The first name is not my idea its a quick fit until we settle on a better one.
Stats will be up later.

Basic character: Knife user, Protects innocents (non leathal weapons except for target), Hates using guns but understands the need (BS will be low, were discusing having him use his WS for Throwing knives).






Sasuke Nevermore
Puritan

Main weapons; 2x long daggers (lenght 1')
                         Throwing knives 12x (six either side)

Secondary weapons; Boe staff (collapsible)
                                  2x auto pistols (thigh holsters)

Dress: tight flex plate armor (black cloth, White plate), hooded sleaveless robe. All armor and weapons engraved with raven inquisitor crest, including bullet shells.

Early history:
Born on tempus. Abandoned and taken in by the Schola Progenium, he showed promise and was sent to the school of assasins on terra. After ten years of training it was felt that his skills were unsuitable for a specific temple structure, it was at this point inquisitor Sulkin was requested to further train the young assasin. Having close ties to the school and often taking his students from various training schools on terra, it was felt that Sasuke would benifit more from the inquisitors experience then from further assasin training.

Inquisitor Sulkin was a harsh master and pushed Sasuke to the limit of his skill, awakening him to a whole set of skills and senses he had as yet left untapped. In all he spent another ten to fifteen years honeing his skills before Sulkin began to send Sasuke on intellegence gathering missions.

Sasuke's natural skills combined with his years of assains training made him an excelent intellegence operative. It wasn't long before other inquisitors of Sulkins aquatance began to request Sasuke's skills. Sulkin was wary at first but relented and loaned Sasuke to several inquisitors over the next decade.

By this time Sulkin had taken on another young student a young girl who he had found in the slums of a hive world, she had a prodidgious skill with firearms and Sulkin was concentrating his efforts on training her. Sulkin decided it was time for Sasuke to take further missions and provided him with a small ship and a budget to work with. Sulkin then asigned him various missions to carry out, and also requested he take Naomi the girl from the slums, as part of his team.

Current activity:
On retainer as inqisitor lord Sulkins personal assassin.

Known associates:
Naomi (marksman)
Kota (pilot)
Jaden (hacker)
Wash: "Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction."

Zoe:  "We live in a space ship, dear."

Alyster Wick

Not a bad concept, I'm a big fan of controlling inquisitorial agents rather than a straight up inquisitor (I like the potential for internal intrigue, which is higher with this kind of set up IMO).

I'll say what will probably be echoed by others, you might want to be more specific about his assassin background.  The idea that he is initiated into an actual Oficio Temple and then "decides" to leave is a little far fetched.  Having him sent back to Terra for training would likewise seem far fetched.  You could make it a random imperial cult assassin temple somewhere close to his home planet and this would probably jive better with the fluff buffs.

That is not to say the set up you're proposing is impossible, but it takes some explaining and would result in your player controlled character being far more powerful than many would be comfortable with.  It all goes to your gaming group though, if your buddies are bringing space marines, eldar pirates and necrons then you gotta respond in kind.

Kaled

Quote from: Nevermore2010 on March 22, 2010, 02:40:32 AM
Sasuke Nevermore
Puritan
What sort of puritan is he?

QuoteDress: tight flex plate armor (black cloth, White plate), hooded sleaveless robe. All armor and weapons engraved with raven inquisitor crest, including bullet shells.
It sounds like you have a good idea of how you want him to look - how do you plan to model him?

QuoteBorn on tempus. Abandoned and taken in by the Schola Progenium, he showed promise and was sent to the school of assasins on terra.
Who was he abandoned by?  The Schola Progenium takes in the orphaned children of Imperial servants, not just any old orphans.  Also, the Assassin Temples usually recruit from carefully nurtured death cults rather than the Schola Progenium.

QuoteAfter ten years of training it was felt that his skills were unsuitable for a specific temple structure
I'm not certain, but it's always been my impression that the Assassin Temples train their recruits themselves rather than taking them from some central school, and that any who fail in their training usually end up as servitors (or more likely dead!).

Quoteit was felt that Sasuke would benifit more from the inquisitors experience then from further assasin training.
Who felt that?  It sounds like there's someone looking out for his well-being - why had someone taken a special interest in him?

QuoteSulkin decided it was time for Sasuke to take further missions and provided him with a small ship and a budget to work with.
What sort of a small ship?  Interstellar ships are almost invariably huge with crews of thousands and are worth a fortune.  More likely he'd be given a small interplanetary ship that is carried through the warp aboard a larger vessel.

If he were my character I would have him as an orphan taken in by a death cult that had connections to the Officio Assassinorum - the Inquisitor then picked him out as a potential acolyte and trained him further.  Maybe have the Inquisitor who left the child with the cult in the first place - perhaps he could be the son of one of the Inquisitor's former associates...
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Heroka Vendile

Quote from: Kaled on March 22, 2010, 05:16:36 PMIf he were my character I would have him as an orphan taken in by a death cult that had connections to the Officio Assassinorum - the Inquisitor then picked him out as a potential acolyte and trained him further.  Maybe have the Inquisitor who left the child with the cult in the first place - perhaps he could be the son of one of the Inquisitor's former associates...

very subtle Dave  :P

But all of what he says is valid, you've got a reasonable concept, it just needs some knocking into shape.
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Kaled

The 'rags to riches' story of an orphan with a secret past may not be original, but it's been used to great effect over the years.  It at least gives the character some sort of arc rather than him simply being yet another kid who was really good at fighting so an Inquisitor recruited him...
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Nevermore2010

Firstly in concerns to fluff and odds and ends raised by Kaled, http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Officio_Assassinorum This is where we got the majority of our info about the Officio Assassinorum. I do like the idea of his being placed there by my inquisitor tho, Perhaps he is the orphaned son of one of his servents/acolytes. If thats the case then there is no reason why he shouldnt have gone to a Temple to hone his skills with a blade. Then been employed by my inquisitor.

As to the ship refered to it is indeed a small ship to shore vessel, think... Sith Infiltrator in size, maybe slightly bigger.

As for the model i want to use the Elder Ranger.
Wash: "Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction."

Zoe:  "We live in a space ship, dear."

Alyster Wick

QuoteIf thats the case then there is no reason why he shouldnt have gone to a Temple to hone his skills with a blade.

Well, yes, there is a very good reason why he shouldn't have gone to a Temple, because the Temples train assassins, not potential Inquisitorial acolytes.  It isn't job training program, the Temples train only the most gifted students more specific tasks, it would be a waste for them to train someone who won't act as an assassin for them, IMO.  The organizations of the Imperium don't necessarily play nice together (and in many cases are openly hostile to one another). 

Death cults are also nothing to scoff at.  If you ask me you either need a very detailed explanation of the circumstances leading to this gentleman's training by a Temple or if you want to gloss over it just have him trained by a death cult.  A third option is just to be very ambiguous about his training and talk about it as a rumor ("His skill with a blade is so legendary that it is whispered he was trained by a Grand Master of Assassins who owed a favor to his liege.")

As for the physical concept I like it.  Very Assassin's Creed mixed with Darth Maul.  I like the idea of him using a smaller vessel while hitching a ride on warp-capable vessels for longer trips.

precinctomega

I just think he's got an awesome name.

R.

Kaled

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Quote from: Nevermore2010 on March 23, 2010, 07:46:24 AM
Firstly in concerns to fluff and odds and ends raised by Kaled, http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Officio_Assassinorum This is where we got the majority of our info about the Officio Assassinorum.
As with most articles on Lexicanum, there's a lot of speculation and assumption mixed in with fact.  The School of Assassins is from Rogue Trader and is where children from feral worlds underwent ten years training to become an Imperial Assassin (the Assassin Temples were a later addition to the fluff).  When Codex Imperialis came out with 2nd edition it talks about recruits coming from the Schola Progenium and had them trained in the Assassin Temples (with no mention of the old 'School of Assassins').  The 3rd edition codex talks about the recruits coming from death worlds, feral worlds and hive cities; they receive some training on the long journey back to Terra before being divided amongst the Temples when they arrive (again, no 'School of Assassins').  Dark Heresy talks about many Assassin Cults being unwitting fronts for the Temples and the source of many of their most promising recruits.

The Lexicanum article appears to be an attempt to tie all of these sources togther, but in doing so it makes a whole load of assumptions.  If you want to stick with the story you have, then that's fine - but more recent sources have gone away from the School of Assassins and seemingly replace them with the Temples.  Shipping the acolyte all the way to Terra seems to be a little excessive though when  the Inquisitor could have had him trained by an Assassin Cult  closer to home.

EDIT: If you want to use the Ranger, it's worth knowing that he fairly obviously has a scabbard under his robes - you could remove it, but it would take a fair amount of effort so it might be easier to just give him a sword (or you could look at other models - Pizarro do a nice assassin-type character with a couple of blades, or there's a list of other 54mm models here).
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Nevermore2010

#9
Thanks a lot kaled, didnt know the info was out of date (and possibly made up), we'll adjust our story accordingly.

QuoteWell, yes, there is a very good reason why he shouldn't have gone to a Temple, because the Temples train assassins, not potential Inquisitorial acolytes.  It isn't job training program, the Temples train only the most gifted students more specific tasks, it would be a waste for them to train someone who won't act as an assassin for them, IMO.

Seeing as we're playing around with the character atm i cant see why a temple would not train an assassin for an inquisitor, Provided the inquisitor paid a lot of money and probably continues to do so for constant use of the assassin. Just my opinion tho, your right, the imperium doesnt play nice.
I've tried to stear clear of the Deathcults, partly because they are just a bit to creapy and close to chaos for the characters personality.

I think the best solution would indeed be a closer to home Assassin Cult (probably a semi offical feeder for the main temples to choose the best and brightest from, the rest are just hired blades, which also helps solve the problem Alyster raised.

I took a quick flick through the various sites, http://www.andrea-miniatures.com/market/AspsProductos/Detalle.asp?IdProductoDetalle=1015 seams to have a good pose, an we could either have the swords or replace them with daggers.

EDIT:

WS   BS    S    T     I    Wp   Sg   Nv   Ld
89    57   65  61  91    71   65   73   37

Talents: Acrobatic, First Strike, Blademaster, Dodge
Psychic Talent: Wyrd Psi-Track (Probably gonna modify it in some way we want him to have it and feel we can justify him having it but we need to work out the specifics)
Wash: "Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction."

Zoe:  "We live in a space ship, dear."

Flinty

Like the way this character is being developed, especially the chivalric idea of only using lethal force on the target if possible - the assassin with compassion - makes a change for the Grimdark...

Looking at the stats I take it this chap is no mere strippling, he must have put in a few years of training,  personally I think his Sg may be a bit high - how did he have the time to get that smart ? but then I dont know the the level at which your group plays.

The wryd Psi-Track - Marcus came up with a nice wryd power in mass awareness, you might find some useful ideas there.

http://www.the-conclave.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=558.0:

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Kaled

Quote from: Nevermore2010 on March 24, 2010, 05:56:55 AM
Psychic Talent: Wyrd Psi-Track (Probably gonna modify it in some way we want him to have it and feel we can justify him having it but we need to work out the specifics)
I'm curious - you always say 'we' rather than 'I'; are you all collaborating and making up the characters for all the warbands in your group between you?  Or are other people just helping you build your warband?  You mentioned a couple of other characters in the warband, but what sorts of characters are the rest of your group playing?

Anyway, what's the justification for the wyrd power?
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DapperAnarchist

If you've gotten MarcoSkoll's pack, in there is a section on the Ordo Sicarus called Bringers of Death, with some very interesting stuff on "Assassination Cults". Not very Chaotic, very dangerous.
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Quote from: DapperAnarchist on March 24, 2010, 05:45:09 PMIf you've gotten MarcoSkoll's pack, in there is a section on the Ordo Sicarus called Bringers of Death...
Just to point out, this is in the pack of Exterminatus Scans, not the main Fanatic Online pack. If all you've got is the pack linked in my signature, then you won't have that file.
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