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Squat stats

Started by Haegar, March 23, 2010, 03:02:20 PM

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Haegar

I will probably be banned for this but i cant find stats for squats anywhere please help me.

I only ask as i have a squat character already and am planning on making a few more one out of this model. (link added) and i have lost all my saved Inquisitor pages from years ago.

http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/dwarf-bjorn-hunter-p-150.html?cPath=37

P.S. i am a long time fan of inquisitor and only just realised the site moved again doh!

Thanks for all replies

Kaled

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Why would you be banned? Other sites may not like discussion of Squats, but a few of up here have Squat characters - their homeworlds may have been destroyed, but that doesn't mean they were all killed.

As for stats, they'd basically be the same as a comparable human but with a slightly higher S & T (and maybe Nv & Wp too), a slightly lower Initiative and reduced movement rate.
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MarcoSkoll

Quote from: Kaled on March 23, 2010, 04:02:18 PMWhy would you be banned?
Indeed, this is a site which deliberately digs up and embraces the older canon. While some sites might get stroppy with you for that kind of thing, around here, it's far from it - you'll likely get praised for good knowledge of old background!
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DapperAnarchist

suggested rules could be - high S, higher T, medium I, walking and running penalties, perhaps no sprinting... Would BS be good, or would they have suffered from their subterranean existence?

Old things I have made into characters - The phrase "Inquisitor Practical" (Last mention in the Codex Imperialis, I think), the Grey Slayers Chapter (Realms of Chaos) and Zoats (Woot! Zoats!).
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Kaled

BTW - it says that miniature you linked to is part of their 70mm range, isn't he going to be a bit tall?  He also looks rather like a Dwarf rather than a Squat...
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Haegar

QuoteBTW - it says that miniature you linked to is part of their 70mm range, isn't he going to be a bit tall?  He also looks rather like a Dwarf rather than a Squat...

I thought the same with him being a 70mm but then thought games workshop do hero scale and if he on a 40mm base. So i did a few rough measurements from the picture on the site and on the main pic his base is 40mm on the picture. So i measured his height at 40mm so i thought what the hell im going to take the risk and get him when i receive him will post a scale pic but not sent order off yet so may be a while.

As for him looking more Dwarfish i figured id make a few 40k changes but mainly keep the model as is pose wise and everything.

P.S. i used to have loads of Zoats but sold them years ago for quite alot of money wish i hadn't now  :(

Radu Lykan

wasnt some body making a zoat a while back? i cant remember who it was but it was looking pretty good iirc

Haegar

Now that would be a cool and Inquisitor scale Zoat.

DapperAnarchist

That was me. She's exactly in the same place she was back then... I will complete her someday...
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kamikaze watermelon

Sorry to go slightly off-topic, but I hear things about old stuff being dug up, which reminds me: Illuminati. (Realm of Chaos). Going to post a topic on them. I have an Illuminati character leading my warband.

And the squat rules here sound pretty good. Can't think of much else to add. Maybe the same move penalties as Quovandius?

Haegar

What about stats like these for a more ranged Squat and what sort of tech weapons would they have i was going to give him a rifle with 1 shot and reload 1 but with the stats of a boltgun is that to much.


WS   BS   S   T   I   WP   SG   NV   LD
61   77   73   75   46   74   74   72   68

Also what type of skills would they have and racial qualities. I agree they should be limited somehow with movement.

Kaled

Quote from: Haegar on March 24, 2010, 08:29:21 PM
What about stats like these for a more ranged Squat
That depends on who he is.  The stats you've chosen are roughly in line with my Squat character, but as for whether they're appropriate depends entirely on the background for your character.  For example, his Sg is pretty high, well above what would be expected for a fairly intelligent and educated human - there's nothing necessarily wrong with that as long as he is supposed to be a well educated character.  If he's just supposed be be fairly technologically adept, then you might want to lower his Sg and give him a bonus when interacting with technology.  There are similar things to take into account with his other stats, so you should probably post some background for him if you want a proper assessment of whether that statline is appropriate.

QuoteAlso what type of skills would they have and racial qualities. I agree they should be limited somehow with movement.
In general, other than a reduced movement rate, I'm not sure you need any other skills/traits to represent a Squat - the profile does that pretty well as it is.  Traditionally orks have an animosity towards greenskins, and in the wake of the Tyranids destroying their home worlds, then you could give him something similar towards them, but that could easily be roleplayed and not need special rules.

As for weapons, they used to use standard things like lasguns and autoguns with a few bolt weapons - a similar mix to the IG in fact, but you character could have some thing different - again, it depends on his background.
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Haegar

I will do that still working on his background as we speak as well as several other characters so soon as i have come up with a rough draft i'll get it posted.

Discy

Yaaargh! Go Squats! ;D



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Now that's out of my system, that is actually a workable base model for a Squat (break out da GS!).
Actually, I seem to recall someone on this forum that made a very nice Squat Engineer out of a 28mm Meganob, and Kaled's got a Squat in his model gallery.
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QuoteWS   BS   S   T   I   WP   SG   NV   LD
61   77   73   75   46   74   74   72   68

I don't know this characters background, or much about Squats at all, but Kaled said:
Quotethey'd basically be the same as a comparable human but with a slightly higher S & T (and maybe Nv & Wp too), a slightly lower Initiative
and he tends to know what he is talking about, so going from that...

I'd but the average statline of a civilian sqaut at:
Ws 35. Bs 35. S 50. T 55. I 30. Wp 50. Sg 45. Nv 35. Ld 30.
(comparison to an imperial citizen:
Ws 35. Bs 35. S 40. T 40. I 45. Wp 40. Sg 45. Nv 25. Ld 30.)

From the model I'd guess the character to be some sort of warrior mechanic, though this is pure speculation. The stat line I'd give the model based on this assumption and also assuming he is reasonably important, say the equivalent of a veteran sergeant, would be in the realm of:
Ws 50. Bs 60. S 65. T 70. I 45. Wp 60. Sg 60. Nv 60. Ld 60.

I can't say weather I agree with the statline you've given as I don't know what the character is, but I'd say it is pretty high in plenty of areas, so the character would be rather exceptional to match up to it.

Squats apparantly used imperial tech but due to continuing to inovate when the imperium stoppped had more advanced versions of things (not just plasma reactors but neo-plasma reactors, whatever the difference is) so i think a bolt weapon is plausable. I'd be tempted to put an advanced, multirole scope on too, look at the functions in the revised inquisitor armoury, I'd go for density, thermal, motion predicting and tragectory calculator. They were also known for their exo suits, though obviously the models lacks one, and this is probably for the best in a game like inquisitor.
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